Urban Meyer still thinks about Notre Dame.

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I remember that Bob Davie told him that you couldn't recruit at ND like he would be able to at UF. Well even given that Weis hasn't had the on the field success that Urban has had, he has shown that you can in fact recruit extremely well to ND. So maybe if Urban wins another Championship he'll look for a new challenge just about the time Charlie Weis is fired at ND. Spurrier was going to Tampa Bay after the 96 Championship, and eventually left 5 years later. Maybe in 5 years Urban will be moving to South Bend!! :)

    Urban Meyer and Notre Dame

    Now to be clear I'd much rather that Charlie have us back in a BCS Bowl next year and contending for the Nat'l Title for the rest of his career. But I doubt that even a successfull Weis will stay beyond 10 years. So in 5 or 6 years there will be an opening for Urban to come back to ND.
     
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    IMHO, ND wouldn't take UMeyer .... because he continues to recruit kids who are already committed to another school.

    :wink:
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

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    You are right, at this very moment one of the boards I'm on there is a discussion of this article. Here's a couple of things posters have said in response to wheter or not they would like to have Meyer.

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    I don't care how damn much he wants or doesn't want the job. If it were up to me, he could never have it. We can win without him. If I have anytihng to say about it, that low rent piece of **** will never set foot on ND's campus again.

    2. The day Urban Meyer coaches at ND is the day I walk away until he's gone, reasons being.


    1) He used ND to sweeten his deal with Florida when he was originally hired (which, I don't doubt, is the purpose of this article now).

    2) He has made disparaging comments about ND on the recruiting trail.

    3) He has encouraged recruits to lie to other coaches, including ND's coaches.


    Interesting that ND fans currently want Nick Satan to replace Weis. :roll:
     
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    Well, the next few years of Meyer at UF will be interesting to watch.

    On a related matter, there are postings on the UF insider board at Gator Country that indicate Meyer has convinced a ND commit for class of 2009 to switch to UF - seemingly either Turk or Motta. Some are hoping it's C Wood.
     
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    Some clowns at ND Nation still think they can influence the administration in running the football program. Weis received a 10 year extension to insulate the program from professional recruitment. He will stay there as long as he wishes. Weis had a lot to learn, but he is intelligent and knows football. The formula is the product of recruitment times coaching. I see a program which is continuing to improve, albeit not at the pace to be wished. We have freshmen at the O Line. This team will become older, stronger and more experienced and will IMHO be top tier in a few years.
     
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    Seattle PI this morning states Haywood is here interviewing for the UW job.
     
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    Amen, Vic. There is a lot of illusory thinking and conversation on that board.

    At the same time Vic was posting the above, I was reading this article in our local newspaper:

    http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/.../SPORTS]Mike Haywood Interviews at Washington
     
  8. Terry O'Keefe

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    Turk did visit UF last weekend with one of his teamates who UF is recruiting, but then IrishEyes did an article on him and he was quoted as saying how firm his commitment was to ND and that he just went along with his buddy as a friend.

    Motta I haven't heard anything on and Cierre Wood I haven't heard anything on either.
     
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    Vic,

    I've read that as well about Haywood. I just can't see though why UW would want to hire him. He may be a good guy, and have lots of positives but he's never been a head coach and this is his first year as a play calller. Maybe they think he's the CEO type who would hire good coordinators. But still no headcoaching experience. I would think UW would be looking to spend what ever it takes to get Gary Pinkel or somebody else with a resume'.

    Haywood needs to go to the MAC, WAC, or C-USA maybe even the Big South for his first head coaching job.

    Terry
     
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    What happened to Wenger and Young from St Thomas Aquinas? Have they been passed on the depth chart by younger guys? They should be 3rd year guys by now. And what about Webb from Arkansas? He was a 5* star guy that signed the same year as Wenger and Young?

    :?:
     
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    Webb never played at ND, he's still student there but an injury ended his career. Wenger didn't play as a freshman, due to an injury and was a backup last year. He's the starter at center this year. Sam Young is a 3 year starter at RT. Many ND fans consider Young somewhat of a disappointment given his high school career, he's a good OL just not the dominant OL that many hoped for, Wenger is a good not great center but this is his first year as a starter so he could develope.
     
  12. Terry O'Keefe

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    Supposed post on a Gator Board, I don't know which one.
     
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    That was a comment responding to the Kerasotis opinion pice @ Floridatoday.com

    Here's another from Pete K on Meyer, where he says UM is "devoid of personality, of any kind of style" will go to ND at the first opportunity:

    http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20081114/COLUMNISTS0306/811140351/1086
     
  14. Terry O'Keefe

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    I really don't get it, why at this point when the Gators are really rolling, and the recruiting for you guys is through the roof is all this comming out?
     
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    These guys are sports writers. Who knows why they write what they do?

    Now, I don't have knowledge of anything happening between Kerasotis and Meyer but .... Meyer has ruffled a few media-guy feathers during his tenure at UF .... so I wouldn't be surprised if Meyer, at some point, said something to or about Kerasotis which has PK a bit miffed @ Meyer.

    I know the long-time sports writer for the Gainesville Sun, Pat Dooley, doesn't enjoy the same buddy-buddy relationship with Meyer that he did with Spurrrier and Zook ... and sometimes his words seemingly reflect that relationship or lack thereof.
     
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    I don't understand the mindset of writers who express in print such negative opinions about successful people. They must not realize how assenine they appear to the general population.

    I theorize that one reason there is so much negative written about Notre Dame is that the media hacks know some of their audience loves ND and some hate ND. They estimate which side has the most readers and pander accordingly. This PK guy probably is thinking the same way. Why else would he have such an axe to grind?

    I'm on Meyer's side on this one. If he has chosen to stay at arms' length from media folks, can you blame him?
     
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    Kerasotis was basing, at least partly, his position on Meyer to ND on a conversation with Buddy Martin, who authored Meyers biography. Here's what Martin posted on Gator Country re Kerasotis' comment:
    I hope Meyer stays at UF for a long time. However, I don't worry about it as I have no influence over such ... ya know, The Serenity Prayer.
     
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    Sounds like another coach using ND as a bargaining wedge. I don't believe for one minute he plans on leaving Florida. End of story.
     
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    Gaterz is right on track with the whole thing.

    Terry, the reason this stuff is coming out is some writer doesn't have anything better to do than try to stir things up. Meyer is staying at Florida, what might happen is with his intense style he gets burn out and leaves coaching early, at least for a period of time. I hope that doesn't happen for a long time.

    As to what those posters said on the Notre Dame board, they might like to know that the Gators agree with them that we don't think he should be at Notre Dame either. :lol: :lol:

    Gipper, sorry but Meyer doesn't need to use Notre Dame or anyone else to ratchet up his salary. I think that the Gators have shown their willingness and ability to pay a coach at the level anyone can pay them.

    So to sum it up, Peter K the writer get's his 15 minutes of fame writing a dumb article. Meyer is staying at Florida and he really has all the leverage he needs to stay at or near the top of the College coaching pay scale with his teams performance on the field.

    I'll add that I don't think the idiot writer could be more wrong about those two timeouts at the end of the Georgia game. He just sent Georgia a little message completely within the rules and not in a way that could have ended in a big fight.
     
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    U. Meyer

    <r>This is so stupid I don't even really want to talk about it. Meyer is not or never will be the HC at ND. <br/>
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    The expectations for ND will be so high next year that anything short of a BCS bowl will be what forces CW out and then the search for a new coach would begin(I personally don't think that will happen). <br/>
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    Regardless, even if ND does go looking for a new HC after next season it won't be UM(Thank God)<br/>
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    CW needs to get a new OC and O-Line coach. If he does that they probably go 10-2 and land a BCS bid.(My hope)<br/>
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    With all due respect to the FL fans, UM can...... ah forget it...<br/>
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    <SIZE size="200"><s></s>THE HELL WITH SYRACUSE<e></e></SIZE></r>