Man do we need this victory bad. Charlie said he's taking over the playcalling this week because Haywood has a family death and will be comming to Houston for the funeral. I wonder if he'll ever get those duties back? Calls for Charlies head are at an all-time high on ND boards and the meidia is starting to ratchet up the pressure on him. They are tossing his words back in his face, the comments about having and X and O advantage and a team with a mean and nasty demeanor. They are gleefully jumping on Notre Dame for giving him that 10 year contract. It has to suck to be Charlie Weis right now, well except for when he gets his paycheck. Oh yeah back to Navy. We should beat them, they are a good team, well coached and have dedicated players. But we have way too much talent to lose to them this year. While I love the midshipmen and the Academy, this team really needs to let it all hang out and blast them if they can. The key to the game with Navy is the same as always, they run, run, run, and run some more. The are very good at that, and you can't let them eat the clock with long drives. You have to get on top of them and we have to have great LB and safety play. Harrison Smith is key to the defense, if he's making a lot of plays then we are doing pretty well. Terry
Lol....This is a picture of me from Charlies cell phone camera, right before the securtiy detail hauled me off!!
Whoa...Jason Whitlock just tore into Charlie Weis and laid it all out that he doesn't like Charlie Weis and he doesn't like Notre Dame. Whitlock on Weis
2 schools of thought. 3 really. 1. Jason Whitlock is a shameless prick who has finally decided to ditch his veil of deceit that only he bought into... That guy only liked ND when Ty was there. He's a racist. 2. Charlie's neck is on the line and if you're going to go down...go down swinging with what you know best. I haven't been all that happy with our OC's play calling. 3. Charlie is a control freak, but it was foolish of him to give this up from the start. I work in an office full of Tide fans who have been laughing all year at the notion of Charlie giving up play calling duties. As they have said, many many times to me... 'He's the greatest offensive play caller in the NFL and easily college football.. why the hell don't you want him calling your plays? It worked for SOS for nearly 2 decades.' I think the truth is a mix of the 3
In Notre Dame's last 16 games against teams with winning records we are 1-15. How long has Haywood been calling plays? Charlie cames roaring into South Bend on tidal wave of bravado and has had his ass handed to him by just about everyone. He is a master recruiter who can't seem to develop the wealth of talent he has recruited. I don't think his job is safe by any means. Of course in retrospect giving him a huge contract extension will rank as one of the biggest bonehead managerial decisions in college sports history. He alienated a lot of alumni right off the bat including former players like Kuchenberg and Buoniconti with his arrogance so I don't think he has the backing with the money people that you would expect. I agree with Corey that he may as well go down with his boots on ( calling the plays ). I hope he succeeds but if we lose to Navy and get humilated by USC I think he is in clear and present danger.
You.. <t>Beat me to the keyboard Corey on Whitlock. Just another hack writer in a profession that could not get much lower. We have a couple just like him in our local rag that lost another 11% in it's readership numbers last month. Keep on sinkin baby.<br/> <br/> As for the Navy game I see a great deal more torture like last year watching our DEs swat after the QB or back taking the pitch. I hate playing these guys but love the military schools like AF and Army.<br/> I would like to say we can score enough points to win but how do you get excited watching Claussen? True he won't face a BC type defense that can pressure the QB and can cover but with our O-L play they are going to have to show me. <br/> <br/> As always I hope for the W but lets play a decent game for a change. I get the feeling watching Charlie's pressers he thinks he is real safe at ND. I think he gets one more but that is it if we don't get nine or more wins in 09.</t>
First of all, as far as I can tell, everyone that has commented on the extension has no knowledge of it's terms. Are there buyout provisions? Are their options? No one knows but eveyone has to comment on it. As I recall, Charlie was running into a number of recruits that were being fed crap about him returning to the NFL. In order to stop that bull they gave him an extension. Did it work? You bet it did. He's had top recruiting classes. As to the play calling, I was livid after some of the calls in the Pitt game. Last week for the second week in a row we threw a forth down pass well short of the marker. How f***en dumb is that :?: :evil: Special teams suck. The offensive line looks like 5 Pilsbury Doughboys out there. Clausen may be color blind or forgetful of which uniform he supposed to be throwing to. If I were down on campus I'd burn a football jersey and put up a sign "I'd rather burn a ND football uniform rather than let someone who doesn't play at 100% wear it."
ND/Navy <r>I........I have no idea what the hell in going on in South Bend anymore. I thought I had an idea of where the program was at and where it was going but now.........I don't know what to think.............<br/> <br/> <br/> I don't really care about Jason Whitlock or any of the other media idiots out there. We knew from the beginning they didn't like Weis or ND and will jump at any excuse to criticize him and the University. <br/> <br/> I'll be back after the Navy game. ......maybe.........I'm not jumping off this ship yet but I'm putting my life jacket on for now........could be some real big waves out there heading our way. Hopefully not. <E</E></r>
There looks like some really good stuff going on here but I gotta get this out of the way first. "Kouch" is a blowhard who can go eff himself. I'd have no problems telling him this to his face. His perceived 'diss' at the hands of Charlie Weis was actually Charlie NOT committing an NCAA violation and trying to distance himself from a big mouthed, pole smoking ego maniac who wanted the credit for HIS recruiting efforts in the state of Florida. I've both read and heard exactly what that jackass expected of Charlie in that situation and had he got his way, it would have been a flagrant NCAA violation....that guy doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. OK, now I gotta go back and read because everything else looked like some good opinion stuff.
Here is what I know. We won 3 games last season. If all of the reasons for firing Ty after year 3 were valid, and I believe that they were, then you have to understand the massive rebuilding effort that was left for this coaching staff. People continue to make apples/oranges comparisons to the situation at ND based upon micro examples that fit the overall theme of their post but none of those comparisons really hold water. What is frustrating, in my opinion and where I think I share this with my fellow ND fans, is that we can see just how close we are. Making just one more block, one more humbling check down throw rather than trying to split triple coverage, one more hand holding onto the ball... just a little more heart and effort and we win those games that we've been dropping. Where I stray from many of my fellow ND fans is the 'why' these things are happening. It may well be that Weis is not ready to be an HC at a level like this. It may also be that this is a program totally void of senior or upper class leadership that can take this team on their shoulders and say 'follow me.' That is the next level. We need to find it if we are going to get back to what was.. Is Charlie the guy to get us there? We'll see..
Excellent point, Corey. It's what I would have posted, but I don't want to get into a pissing match with my frustrated and angry brethren. A major element of my analysis always includes the question, What kind of senior leadership do we have? These seniors care and I have no doubt they are playing their hearts out, but to quote Corey, they can't "take this team on their shoulders and say 'follow me.' " Like everyone else here, I've been hardened by the experiences of the last two coaches before Charlie. I no longer am a cockeyed optimist. I am downright embarrassed by our showing vs. BC. However, like Corey, I believe we have improved year-to-year in baby steps, not the gigantic leap so many want to see, even expect to see. I'm on board as long as we continue to show positive progress, but no more performances like last Saturday.....Please!
Tom Pagna takes his shot at Charlie as well in a free article on BlueandGold.com Pagna on Weis From online comments I've read Pagna has not liked Weis from day 1 and this isn't the first negative thing he's written or said about Weis.
Tom Pagna can blow it out his hole. He is getting on Weis about language and playing 'bad cop' with players?!?!? This guy was on Ara's staff, right? Sometimes, distance gives you perspective.. sometimes distance causes you to lose all perspective. i believe the latter to be true in this case. i have NEVER liked his work.
pagna <r>Pagna is a nice enough guy but his perspective of current college football coaches is a little off. First of all he hasn't liked Weis from the git-go. Secondly, he doesn't like any coach using foul language with the players or probably anywhere else as far as that goes. I can respect his opinion and I wish there was a lot less of the foul language going on on the sidelines and elsewhere myself but it's not reality. <br/> <br/> Weis needs to go back to just being himself as far as I'm concerned and not worry about what everybody thinks about him (maybe he doesn't anyway). Your gonna be hard pressed to find a modern era coach anywhere that is going to please Pagna.<br/> <br/> As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on CW. Changing coaches now would be a disaster for ND. We need to beat Navy and Syracuse then at least be competitive against usc. That will get us to a bowl. After that we can start talking about replacements for Haywood and Latina.<br/> <br/> <br/> <B><s></s><SIZE size="150"><s></s><e></e></SIZE>THE HELL WITH THE SQUIDS!<e></e></B></r>
As sceptical as I am regarding Weis' ability as a HC, I think he has to continue through 2009. His assistants don't however and he needs to **** can Latina and Mendoza after this season and go out and find line and stgrengtth coaches that know what they're doing. Next year's schedule is easier than this years. 8-9 wins is an absolute must.
Good.. <t>Discussion and short of a total meltdown Saturday (meaning a loss) and a W versus a bad Cuse team then our annual beating by SC Charlie gets one more year IMO. Given the schedule and while it bothers some it doesn't me we have to get nine wins next year and beat someone ranked plus finally win a bowl game.<br/> We still have O-Line problems and besides Trevor Robinson the rest do little for me including Sam Young. These guys just don't move anyone out so when does that change? On the D-Line we still have problems there with no real stud unless a young one jumps out next year.<br/> My hope is the light switch goes on for players and coaches the rest of this year and next as I want Charlie to get the program back on the National scene to avoid yet another coaching change but like many Irish fans they are going to have to show me. To date its a "Yawn" guys.</t>