at a state Chamber of Commerce dinner. I don't care for Gingrich's ideology, but I respect him as intelligent and insightful. IMO, all Republicans would do well to heed his words both describing why the Republicans lost the election and acknowledging why and how Obama won. Look at Indiana. The last time this state voted for a Democrat for president was 1964, Lyndon Johnson, the year Barry Freaking Goldwater was the Republican candidate. Newt Gingrich Speech at Indiana Chamber of Commerce Dinner
He's spot on with his comments. What do you think of his comments on Gov Daniels? A future presidental candidate?
I would be shocked beyond shocked if that ever happened. My favorite term for him is "little sh--head" (He is even shorter than I). He has a very abrasive nature. Basically, what happened is that the Democrats here are in much deeper disarray than the Republicans are nationally. They ran a very weak candidate who did not have the backing of the "powers that be" hence no money. She was virtually invisible during the campaign, and Daniels' ads were very well done and were very convincing to the average uninformed citizens. Hence his landslide victory in a state where Obama narrowly won. His final ad claimed that he never again will run for public office after this election. He has done some very bold things which have been controversial. In one area of many, where my strong feelings emanate, he is openly adversarial toward public education, where I make my living (via financing school construction). I won't bore you with any more detail than that. Suffice to say that I will be very happy when he is gone, but it will be a long 4 years for yours truly. Fortunately, the Dems hold a 52-48 majority in the Indiana House, so there will be at least some check-and-balance as opposed to the U.S. Congress. Back to your original question. There was an article in yesterday's Indy Star about the potential for Evan Bayh to make a run in 2016. He is someone from Indiana who is a legitimate possible future presidential candidate, but that's a long way off. As we have just witnessed, a lot can happen in 8 years.
I'm a Newtnick. I've read his 5 historical fiction books and thoroughly enjoyed them. I also think he is a very astute politician and agree that the results of this weeks election were performance rather than ideology driven. Those that fault McCain for the campaign just don't get it. I feel that Adolf Hitler could have run as a Democrat and won. He might have even gotten the Jewish vote!
I don't comment much anymore on this BB....the back room...primarily because of this kind of exclusion if you will from any acceptance by the pronounced rightwing majority here of my criticisms of the last 8 years. Obviously given the election results and Newt's comments the last 8 years have been less than desirable with respect to our executive governance. In layman's terms.....I git tired of arguin with ya.....
Honestly MCG.. Maybe you should read up some more... I had a section here on election day.. Have you checked the numbers? One could look at those stats and say that the GOP refused McCain more than the nation accepted Obama.
I'm sorry, I thought that there was an election 4 yrs. ago. As I recall the incumbant at that time actually did better than his previous percentage. Using your tortured logic the electorate apparently didn't have trouble with the first 4 yrs. My own opinion is that the election turned on the last 6 mos. with the crash of the economy but hey, that's just an opinion.
Gore was a much stronger candidate than was Kerry and the Reps did a bang up...no a very "Swift" job of running down their opposition in 2004 as they are usually so very adept at. All that proves to me is that not all Republicans have dirt and chickens under their houses. And if you don't get what I am saying just take a look at one of those Red and Blue state maps..... ...And this is what Obama faces after the last 8 disastrous years of George Bush: From CNN: "On the day that President-elect Barack Obama visited the White House, a new national poll illustrates the daunting challenges he faces when it becomes his home next year. Only 16 percent of those questioned in a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released Monday say things are going well in the country today. That's an all-time low. Eighty-three percent say things are going badly, which is an all-time high. "The challenge Obama faces has never been greater. No president has ever come to office during a time when the public's mood has been this low. In the 34 years that this question has been asked, the number who say things are going well has never fallen below 20 percent," said Keating Holland, CNN's polling director."
Hey Dave things should be looking up for you now, Obama will be sending you a check, lowering your taxes, no doubt taking care of the evil credit card companies and you won't have to pay anything for your medical insurance. The only thing I haven't seen him propose a way to make your life better is that he's not taken a position on dental. :wink: I even see that he's taking economic advice from the creator of the dynamic Michigan economic engine. The USA can mirror the Michigan economic miracle soon!! :wink: I can't wait. :roll:
Hey has anyone considered that the mood is so low because Obama got elected? And Terry, you're right about our Democratic governor Grandholm. She a complete UAW whore. She shows up in Michigan about as often as the groundhog shows up. Since she's term limited she's spent more time briefing Biden for his debate and doing this economic counsel crap than she's spent here in Michigan. She and her union stooges have completely wrecked this state. You should have seen the political commercials here blaming Republicans for all the job losses. My daughter sent me some Wall Street Journal articles that showed that while Michigan was losing 83,000 auto jobs, 91,000 new jobs were created in states like Indiana, Kentucky, Alabama etc. Yeah, Jenny the incompetent's explaination was all this job loss was created by the Bush economic policies. I guess he's just president of Michigan. But the Democratic idiots in this state bought all that crap. We deserve the terrible economic things that are happening. We continue to vote in the architects of this mess and buy their excuse that it's someone elses fault.
Ah yes....the underemployment of America. What a Bush legacy. There are so many great high paying jobs created by the Bush administration that the sub-prime mortgage lenders had a field day at our expense with all of these "qualified" buyers and their new jobs. Service industry workers qualifying for these mortgages was a big boost to the economy......yeah right. Take a look at where and what kind of jobs the Bush administration created and how many well paying jobs got shipped overseas during his tenure.....of course not so well paying once shipped I have to add. Now.....with GM stock rated at ZERO yesterday we are in danger of George W. Bush leaving a total automotive industry collapse in his wake and a Depression for the rest of the country. This nation will not sustain the loss of 200,000 real jobs directly in the automotive industry and probably around another 250,000 supporting jobs amongst suppliers. This isn't just a Katrina in Michigan where the rest of you snooty Republicans with your noses in the air alongside W's... can sit back and watch us wallow in deep water or belch out such nonsense as was put forth about New Orleans ( It's all the local Dems fault ).....it's a CAT 5 economic hurricane in every state and you all will be affected severely. There is a great abundance of Republicans who will be just as devastated financially as any Democrat if the automotive industry in America vanishes.
Ah the delusional left. Let's look back at history shall we? First of all, whatever happened to all those jobs in the electronics industry. (Some may not remember RCA, Zenith, Sylvania etc.) They left for foreign shores years ago as Sony, Samsung, Toshiba etc. did it better. Then there was the steel industry. Most of those jobs left (many, many in the Clinton years. ) Why the president didn't just wave his magic wand and keep those jobs in America I don't know. So now it's the auto industry. Chrysler wants to be bailed out for the second time (I can't remember, how did G W Bush ruin them the first time?) And once again the left want to know why the president didn't just wave his magic wand and stop the moving of jobs overseas. (It couldn't be that Americans prefer Toyotas, Nissans, Subarus ect. over Chevys and Fords could it? And meanwhile I see all these Obama bumperstickers in cars parked in the Wal Mart parking lots and I realize that they just don't get it. They cry about losing their jobs and then slit the throats of their fellow American workers. But hey, they can always blame W. He is responsible for everything from hurricanes to oil prices. (Oh and by the way, I haven't heard one Democrat thank the president for waving his magic wand and lowering gas prices.) Can someone remind me of all the job saving legislation that the Democratic Congress has passed in the last 2 years?
Well using the 2000 template, you can start as of last week Things have been going quite well down here. One of the single biggest reasons these jobs moved to these areas is that they were union free. While some folks in other regions like to point to the reduced wages paid in Alabama, they also don't adjust for the lack of having to compensate the deep union pockets and the cost of living here in the South. Also, I gotta mention this: For all the whining the left did about people calling them not being patriotic or unamerican...and I think that is valid... they don't ever look at the mirror. If you didn't vote for Obama, you are dehumanized. You are some subhuman creature living on a chicken ranch with a low double-digit IQ. You are a racist. You are possibly even retarded. You tell me which is worse? For the record, as someone who lives in one of these 'redneck states'... the 'dirt poor, chicken-under-the-house' areas of Alabama voted heavily Democrat. It is the people in the middle class or more affluent areas of the state that stand something to lose and voted for McCain.
I don't know about that.....just taking an informal little survey around the Skybox membership I'd say we have attorneys, dentists, retirees, business owners, educators, consultants, investors among others who did not vote for nor support Obama. I ain't got no chicken under my house. Any of you guys got chickens under your house?
You're joking right? The domestic automobile industry has been in the tank for a generation due to their own stupidity and that too is on Bush? Nonsense...... :roll:
Hey that's what every Democratic campaign commercial here in Michigan said no matter what the position the candidate was running for. If it was in a Democratic campaign commercial it has to be true :roll: Remind me to tell you how my congressional representative voted against polar bears sometime.