At least the delegates that are voted on by the public, the very undemocratic Super Delegates are a different story and of course we have those ticky tacky Fla and Michigan delgates that Hillary won but can't count. I forsee her and Slick Willy probably physically accosting those delegates to vote for her. If they do all hell is going to breakout and I would imagine a lot of democrats are going to be very upset and maybe even stay home on election day. Does anybody have a good explanation why the Democrats have Super Delegates? I found this on another board.
Ah yes, one candidate wins the popular vote but the other wins the nomination. How ironic would that be? Terry, here's an informative article on super delegates. If nothing else, it let's all the party hacks write off their trips to the convention or in most cases, get the party to pay for it.
A short time ago talking heads and pundits were predicting a "train wreck" at the dem convention if the pledged delegate count was close. It appears that Obama has the momentum and will probably have a comfortable lead in total votes and pledged delegates. If the Supers put Hillary in the total delegate lead, there will be hell to pay.
Don't think for a second that the democratic race is over. The Clintons will do anything to get the nomination. Notice I use the word "Clinton" in the plural sense.... this is as much about Bill as Hillary. They will gladly risk tearing apart the fabric of the democratic party and disnenfranchising the voters if it means a return to the throne. From today's AP: WASHINGTON (AP) - Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign who voted for Democratic Party rules that stripped Michigan and Florida of their delegates, now is arguing against the very penalty he helped pass. In a conference call Saturday, the longtime Democratic Party member contended the DNC should reconsider its tough sanctions on the two states, which held early contests in violation of party rules. He said millions of voters in Michigan and Florida would be otherwise disenfranchised - before acknowledging moments later that he had favored the sanctions. Ickes explained that his different position essentially is due to the different hats he wears as both a DNC member and a Clinton adviser in charge of delegate counting. Clinton won the primary vote in Michigan and Florida, and now she wants those votes to count. "There's been no change," Ickes said. "I was not acting as an agent of Mrs. Clinton. We had promulgated rules and those rules said the timing provision ... provides for certain sanctions, automatic sanctions as a matter of fact, if a state such as Michigan or Florida violates those timing provisions." "With respect to the stripping, I voted as a member of the Democratic National Committee. Those were our rules and I felt I had an obligation to enforce them," he said. Clinton won after all the Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign in either state because they violated the party rules. Clinton, who flew into Florida on primary eve but did not hold a public rally, tried to argue that Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois had violated the pledge by airing a national ad campaign that also showed on Florida television stations. Ickes' dual positions on the issue illustrate some of the internal division within the party as Clinton and Obama run neck-in-neck in the Democratic presidential race. Some Democratic leaders have expressed concern that the tight contest might ultimately hinge on the positions of some 700 party insiders known as superdelegates. Civil rights leaders also have been somewhat split on whether seating the Florida and Michigan delegates would unfairly disenfranchise minority voters. As of Saturday, the delegate count stood at 1,280 for Obama and 1,218 for Clinton. If the DNC were to award Michigan and Florida's 313 delegates based on the vote in their primaries, she would be ahead because she won both states. On Saturday, Ickes reiterated the campaign's view that new "redo" votes in Florida and Michigan aren't necessary. He said many superdelegates are elected lawmakers or governors who are supposed to exercise their independent judgment to vote contrary to public opinion if they believe another candidate has a better chance of winning. In response, the Obama campaign said Ickes' viewpoint runs counter to democratic principles. "The Clinton campaign just said they have two options for trying to win the nomination - attempt to have superdelegates overturn the will of the Democratic voters or change the rules they agreed to at the 11th hour in order to seat nonexistent delegates from Florida and Michigan," said Obama campaign manager David Plouffe. "The Clinton campaign should focus on winning pledged delegates as a result of elections, not these say-or-do-anything-to-win tactics that could undermine Democrats' ability to win the general election." Ickes, however, expressed confidence that DNC Chairman Howard Dean will work out a solution to Michigan and Florida's stripped delegates and that there will be no delegate fight at the Democratic National Convention in August, predicting that Clinton will have the nomination locked up shortly after primaries and caucuses end on June 7. "We hope the national chairman will engage the Democratic leadership of both of those states and work out a suitable compromise," Ickes said, stressing that neither the candidates nor the Democratic party will be well-served by a "bitter fight" that lasts into the convention.
I do know that he refuses to wear the flag on his lapel. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3690000
It really bothers me that he refuses to wear the flag on his lapel. His explanation really sounds stupid to me.