Bobby Knight hangs it up??

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  1. Scott88

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    I know he says its not health related so I hope its as he says, he's just tired. He's never been one of my favirite coaches but I've always known that he was one of the greatest.
     
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    I guess that blazing fire within has finally burned out. It happens. As passionate as he is, I'm mildly surprised it did not happen earlier in his life.
     
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    That is a huge shock. I mean you know he had to hang it up sometime, but he seemed to be in great health and physically up to the job. I could see him maybe hanging it up after the season. I have wondered myself why he keeps on at Tech, he's never going to be better than a 3rd or 4th place team in the B12 and certainly never going to even approach the success he had a Indiana.

    When he took the job I wondered if he would quickly build Tech into a B12 power, but that hasn't happened.

    Terry
     
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    Hopefully it's what happens to all of us eventually, we get tired of working and don't have the same fire we once had.

    I don't consider myself a fan of Knights, but I think that he had a lot of positives to go with his negatives. I believe he always paid attention to academics for his players and you can't deny his teams always won more games than they lost.

    Good luck to his son.
     
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    I think this was probably a good decision on his part. I wish Woody Hayes would have stepped down sooner and look what happened to him.

    Don
     
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    What about Pat Knight? I don't really know anything about him, other than he is Bobby's son. Is he well regarded in the basketball community, has he been offered other head coaching jobs and turned them down?

    I don't know if he's a great recruiter, although if he was then Tech would have a better lineup of talent. Is he a great developer of players? I guess we'll find all that out soon enough though.
     
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    I figured this had to be the reason. My question is still, Pat Knight? Who is he?
     
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    Two objective articles, each of which shows both sides of the story instead of showing only the writer's personal agenda:

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/SPORTS0601/802050425/1247/SPORTS

    http://www.journalgazette.net/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/SPORTS0203/802050334

    (Note: Original post edited by Sid to show a kinder, gentler approach to the topic :roll: )
     
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    Interesting articles. I'm not sure just what I think about Knight. I think I can say I see a number of good things in him, but then have to say that I'm glad he was not the coach of my team.

    Whatever that might mean.
     
  12. Stu Ryckman

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    Those are good articles, Sid, and capture him better than mine did...

    I always pulled for BK to control himself...he is a coaching genius and after all still is an OSU product...I really wanted to like him...still do, in some ways...every time I see him interviewed I am hoping that he doesn't erupt...that he shows class.

    It just wore me down over the years...mostly the lack of apparent respect for anyone else.

    If whatever you edited out was aimed at me...I'm sorry.

    I have never been a Bobby Knight flamer...the articles I posted were full of negatives but they discussed the timing of his quitting as well as the tragedy of his career...I hope that folks remember the good things.
     
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    No, Stu. It was aimed at the authors of the articles you linked. For a brief moment I regressed to my old knee-jerk way of venting my emotion. I thought better of my reaction and toned down my post. Growing old has its advantages for someone like me.

    Like most sensible folks, I recognize that BK has built for himself a legacy of ambivalence among all sports fans. Clearly one of the three greatest college coaches ever in terms of his on-court acomplishments and his squeaky clean record in recruiting and academics. His public persona off the court (and sometimes on) is one of arrogance, uncontrollable temper, and bullying. His non-public persona, the one that no one wants to talk about, is one of unselfish generosity and charitableness.

    He has molded his own legacy, and at this momentous point in his life he deserves to have the bad brought forth as well as the good, but most of what I have read and heard today is nothing more than piling on by an intellectually deficient media, most of whom know only what they have read and seen and have not bothered to scratch the surface. It's pitiful but it's the way things are in our society. We ND folks saw it several years ago when we were down, and we are seeing it today.
     
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    Here is an article that asks if and when IU might honor Knight in some way. It certainly will be an interesting conversation here in Indiana for a long time to come. Knight himself is responsible for the possibility that it might not happen. IMO, there should not be a timetable for honoring someone like Knight or any other coach. It doesn't even need to happen while he is alive. That's why the conversation likely will go on until the day comes when a decision is made one way or the other.
     
  15. Stu Ryckman

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    I think it would be extremely tacky for IU not to honor Bobby Knight for all that he did for the university.

    Problem is, they are probably afraid that it could get ugly if the General is ticked off about what happened and decides to give the world a piece of his mind when they make the peace offer.

    The past couple of days I have seen all kinds of youtube videos of his press conferences, and quite frankly, they shock me...mostly because I sort of thought that he had toned it down a bit at Tech, but so many of these are from his time there...they are hard to watch.

    I hope that IU honors him and he accepts it in a classy way...he really is a great coach and IU owes him a lot.
     
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    Stu, I have a solution for the issue of whether or not he appreciates the manner in which IU honors him or how they might extend the olive branch. Wait until he's gone and honor him posthumously. Even then, he probably would send a sign if he is displeased, like lighning or thunder or a flying chair. :lol:
     
  17. Stu Ryckman

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    He already said in an arena full of people that he wanted to be buried face down so his critics could kiss his ass. :lol: