Wow...5 million dollars against the NCAA. Granted it was in an Alabama court and he had to have had a big advantage, but still. The NCAA needs to reform the way it does business in these matters, right now they just do and say what they want and don't answer to anybody. This is bound to be chilling to them as if nothing else it may embolden others to sue them as well.
yup <t>I told ya it was coming. This was no 'home cooking' job either. The NCAA took a beating in that case.</t>
Terry, This is the first time that being in Alabama has been an advantage. All of the other suits have either been thrown out or stripped of all the real issues and then found in favor of the NCAA. The previous cases went under the radar pretty much. No one commented on the impartiality of the Alabama when the NCAA has won, the only comment comes when the NCAA loses. I'm a little disappointed.
I'm so happy for Alabama. Now after other fruitless suits they may finally have gotten the NCAA to back off and allow them to cheat all that they want. It's got to be great for college football.
Simply amazing. Did you even read about the case? I guess a quick scan of the headlines was enough. Oh well, unless something changes, it's just a matter of time. The NCAA will set their sights on someone else and then the fans of that school will be outraged.
After reading the article, Keller (Booster) wins round one. Round two, three, etc. may have a different ending. This could drag on for years. Don
KP <t>I really thought about posting stuff from this trial as it went along, but I figured people would get bored...<br/> <br/> I'm thinking some of the guys are just having some fun here, at least I would hope so in this case.<br/> <br/> What the NCAA did in this investigation is...well it really goes beyond description.<br/> <br/> ND fans should remember the 3 ring circus that went on with its NCAA investigation.. the NCAA ignoring rules, making up new ones...implied definitions to fit that situation to serve their greater purpose.<br/> <br/> Well if you guys remember the bitter sting of that, imagine that multiplied a hundred times over. <br/> <br/> In this case, just to give you a tidbit, Alabama was aggressively seeking out 'rogue boosters' and trying to make sure they were in full compliance.. All the while, the NCAA took a 'secret document' filed by Terry f*cking Bowden, and INTENTIONALLY HELD IT IN SECRET FROM ALABAMA.</t>
Corey, I thought about posting on all of the suits that have gone on in the aftermath of the sanctions but I too figured everyone on here would get bored with it. Oh well, I guess the NCAA really did show Alabama. Damned Cheaters!
Don't get all rilled up kp, ask the Commish how he felt about the Notre Dame sanctions. Oh well maybe better not.
Bill, I'm better now. :wink: This same attitude has existed since this whole ugly situation came to light. What happens is that folks that don't read beyond the headlines misconstrue my (and others) protestations against the NCAA as a belief that Alabama was innocent in all of this. Alabama was guilty of enough that there should have been sanctions. I do believe that the sanctions were too harsh and Alabama was sanctioned for some violations more than once. My protests are based on the fact that the NCAA violated their own "regulations". Violations could have been revealed and minimized if they had followed their own notification regulations. Alabama was not allowed to refute some accusations because the identity of certain accusers were hidden, and in this case individuals (boosters) were singled out and called names in public without any way of defending themselves. Also, there have been several lawsuits by individuals in Alabama up to now and all of them to this point have been either dismissed or limited in scope and then found in favor of the NCAA. This is the only one that has gone against them and it is immediately pointed out by some as being because of a biased jury/judge. Again, kind of a pass by shooting. If you only read the headlines then that is the picture you may get. All of this attitude will change when the NCAA decides to go after some other school. The fans of that school will howl about the injustice of it all and it will be "different" in their case for a variety of reasons that will sound really familiar. Anyway, there is an old saying in the Navy that says if you're explaining, you're losing, so I'm going to shut up now. The sanctions are behind Alabama, this lawsuit has nothing to do with the university, so I will go back to being pissed off because apparently we can't beat Auburn. 8)
Commish didn't post earlier, I did using his laptop. I guess I'll just have to equate what a rogue, groupie who liked to sleep with ND players to real "boosters" who do a variety of things to attract players to schools like Alabama. I took solice in the fact that by the time the ND investigation of a "major" infraction got to the punishment committee they made a statement by their decision that the NCAA's original decision was complete bullsh*t. It was not only a slap on the wrist but a soft one to boot. The fact was, they and many others knew that the NCAA's decision was pure politics. No one at ND sued the NCAA they just took it because ND knows that the NCAA is the only thing the keeps some schools from just going over the top in gathering the dumbest emus that they can find. The NCAA is a voluntary association of universities that created a way that they could police themselves and set rules and regulations. Some schools accept their punishments and move on. Some blame the police for their crimes. That's today's society.
I see what you are saying Gip <t>but that just isn't what happened at Alabama.<br/> <br/> That is the NCAA's image they've put out. The NCAA literally fostered boosters and prevented the school from finding out what was going on. Its not like Alabama wasn't trying to correct the problem that was out there when it first started.<br/> <br/> What we have here is the NCAA taking the anonymous word of the Bowden brothers and then formed a group that followed the actions going on 'at' Alabama. THEY SHIELDED ALABAMA from evidence that they were gathering from anonymous sources (to the tune of Fulmer, Bowden etc). <br/> <br/> Alabama might well have been able to cut this off at secondary violations, what afforded these boosters the opportunity to grow out of control was protection by the NCAA in a sense.<br/> <br/> This wasn't a sting operation. This is a case in which the NCAA served as an incubator and shield for those things going wrong at Alabama...only to ultimately punish Alabama for the problem growing out of hand.</t>