First Powell...now Cheney?

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Obviously Colin Powell began not to see eye to eye with the Bush admin. and he resigned in Nov. '04 as a result. As I posted in another subject the Bush Iraqi war policies are supposedly the root cuase of Powell's resignation.

    Now in the aftermath of Cheney's gun accident I have read that there is a widening rift or at least diminished communications between W and Cheney.

    It makes me wonder if it was Cheney pushing for the war in Iraq all along and maybe Bush had the reservations and now W thinks less of Cheney's opinions because of it?

    Intriguing possibility anyway.
     
  2. George Krebs

    George Krebs Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the musings of Al Franken..... 8)
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    All for the Historians to sort out. I'm sure the Historians will have much more to work with in the Bush era than they did in the Clinton era.
     
  4. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    You're right Terry. There has certainly been a maelstrom of major events swirling around this administration since it took office.

    Clinton's admin. had many noteworthy conflicts and events take place as well but the BJ and the Rep's zealous Clinton hunt overshadows a lot of the historical interest in his administration's activities otherwise.

    Certainly truths re: the Bush admin. will come a little further out in the long run and I do believe Powell for one has more to say when the dust settles.
     
  5. whobedis

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    I don't think it's in Cheney's make-up to resign especially over a tempest in a teapot hunting accident. That being said I could see one scenario involving a "Bulldog" that might possibly lead to his ,shall we say "demise"
     
  6. gipper

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    So no one has heard the rumor that W want's Cheney to leave early so that Condi Rice can step in and get a head start on '08?
    I can't see Cheney staying in DC one minute longer than he has to. He'll be back at his nice home abutting Teton Pines in Jackson hours after he leaves. Unfortunately for him, the Scooter Libby trial is scheduled later in the year and he might be hoping to get that behind him before he leaves.
     
  7. Motorcity Gator

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    I'm actually suggesting that based on reports a rift has developed btw Cheney and Bush much like what occurred btw Cheney/Bush and Powell over Iraqi war policy.

    I definitely would be surprised if Cheney resigned and I don't expect it.
    As much as I despise the attention given to Clinton's BJ the attention given to Cheney's hunting accident is even more deplorable.

    Of course, I would now expect some to come on here and accuse me of one-sided bias in that I would even contemplate excusing Clinton for his BJ.
     
  8. George Krebs

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    I hate to rehash this but since you brought it up... it wasn't the BJ. Hell, nobody blamed him for that.

    It was how he tried to squirm out of it by parsing his words. All he had to do was say, "yes I did it. I used bad judgement. It won't happen again" he would have gone up in the polls and become a Washington legend all in one move.

    Cheney's situation was an accident. Clinton's was by design. That's an important distinction.
     
  9. gipper

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    Do you honestly think Cheney likes being VP? It's a job that was once described as "not worth a warm bucket of spit." The media looks for any excuse to pillory the White House and administration folks keep giving them amunition.
     
  10. Motorcity Gator

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    George,

    It is an old rehash to be sure. I have always pointed more to the "who the hell is asking and what is your agenda for asking" scenario than any other reasonable cause and effect for prying and subsequent lying.
     
  11. Tennessee Tom

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    MCG,

    Have you heard Chris Rock's opinion on the BJ :?: I think that he makes a good point :!:
    I'm not a big Chris Rock fan, but I am a comedy fan and listen to XM 150 through 80 miles of commute each day. His name does pop up from time to time. :wink:
     
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    :eek: George,
    You got me thinking.....in the history of man-kind has an "accidental "
    BJ ever occured?.........( the stage is now set for some of those old JAP jokes) :roll:
     
  13. Stu Ryckman

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    I heard an interview of Bill Salmon (a White House press corps member) on Fox and Friends yesterday morning.

    He feels that Cheney, though originally reluctant to take the job, now likes it and believes he is performing an important function...and also he stated that Cheney has more influence than any other recent VP.

    He felt that the Bush and Cheney staffs occasionally disagreed on things but for the most part got along with each other well.

    He stated that Bush is an intensely loyal man and would be very unlikely to pressure Cheney to leave.

    The only scenario that he could perceive would be if Cheney, also a loyal man, felt on his own that it would be a big advantage for the party for him to leave after the mid-term elections in order to give Condi a head start.

    But basically he thought most of this talk was baseless speculation.

    stu