BCS bowl record since 2001 = 7 wins and 1 loss

Talking about the SEC of course and check out what CFN has to say about that and especially those BCS bowl records of other conferences:


Really, how good is the SEC?

No one can deny it’s the best conference going at the moment. No one can deny that the overall speed and talent level is tremendous. The weekly drama is unparalleled, thanks to so many good match-ups, and the overall competition is so tough that it’s just about impossible to get through unscathed. So after the way Florida blew up Ohio State to win the national title, will the conference start to get every benefit of the doubt? It should.

Of all the national champions since Florida State won in 1993 (remember that only the BCS champions count in our new world…sorry USC of 2003), only three finished with a loss. Take a wild stab at which league produced those three; yes, the SEC (1995 Florida, 2003 LSU, and 2006 Florida). You can understand why Auburn fans are still angry after their unbeaten team got left out in the cold in 2004. The SEC has proven time and again that when given the chance, it shines through on the highest stage.

But really, how good is the SEC?

To feed the ego a little more, the league has gone 7-1 in the BCS since 2001, with two national titles, and the lone blemish was Georgia’s 38-35 upset loss to West Virginia in the 2006 Sugar Bowl. In that same time span, the Big Ten went 4-6 (with Ohio State winning three of those), the Big 12 went 3-6, and the ACC was 0-6.

Remember, it took USC losing to UCLA and a sizable portion of the voters to go against Michigan just to get Florida in the championship game. Maybe it’s time to start weighing the strength of schedule more when it comes to the SEC, and to realize that a one-loss team here could be the equivalent of an unbeaten team from another conference. That might especially be the case this season.

Things have gotten even tougher, with normal bottom-feeders Kentucky and Vanderbilt now good enough to go to a bowl. Ole Miss and Mississippi State are even better than in 2006, when they were more than just competitive by the end the season. And then, of course, there are all the big-name programs.

Georgia is getting better with QB Matthew Stafford improving, South Carolina will be better than it’s been in several years, Arkansas has the best running back tandem in the nation, Auburn will be typical Auburn with a fast, nasty defense, Tennessee will be strong again (as long as the receiving corps comes through), and LSU and Florida will open the season ranked among the top five teams in the nation.

How good is the SEC? It’s still the best, and it’s only getting better.

 

Why don't we just award the SEC champion the title every year. Have the rest of college football play for the Class B National title? :twisted: :twisted:

 

Comparing those BCS bowl records ( throw in ND's ) of all the other conferences vs. the SEC's record since 2001 and I would say you have a point Terry.

 

and who says there is no humility on this BB? :twisted:

 

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....not to worry Krebsie, the records of the SEC/Big 10 head-to-head match-ups speaks for itself. All the rest is just rhetoric, no matter how it gets spun.....recent history or the distant past.

For the record, the Big 10 is the ONLY conference with a winning record against every other major conference.

 

We are talking about BCS bowl records since 2001 of conference elite members (and ND) here BT but since you mentioned it how about that 0-8 bowl record Ohio State carries vs. the SEC?

If you want to have a different topic about Ohio State vs. regular season SEC opponents then that's something else and maybe a few top SEC teams for those losses to OSU/Big Ten were in the mix but I suspect most Big Ten wins vs. the SEC came against lesser competition ( for those seasons.)

 

...no doubt that we are the weak link in the conference. Imagine how much more favorable the results are for the Big 10 if you throw out the conference doormat Buckeyes....

Each of the SEC's historical powers - Bama, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, Tennessee all have losing records -v- the Big 10....as does Florida.

You'd have a much more compelling case in your coronation of the SEC if the fact pattern were different.

 

To me what's relevant is what has happened recently....not what happened 30 years ago.

CFN apparently feels the same as they are going back to 2001.

This topic is about that article and the SEC's apparent strength in today's world.

Not many would deny that supposition based on a 7-1 BCS Bowl record and the ease of Florida's win over OSU fresh on everyone's mind.

Again....that 0-8 OSU bowl record vs. the SEC must be bothersome.

 

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they all want to talk about 'recent history' but somehow wanted to wash away USC destruction of Auburn when it was 'recent history.' LSU's coach can run his mouth, but I don't see them lining up to do a home and home with any of the Pac10 power players (no offense Rick).</t>

 

None taken. I think it's an important first step for a team to actually be a power player before it should be regarded as one.

USC and Cal are the only Pac-10 teams that can legitimately make that claim today. Some Pac-10 fans want to add a couple of teams so that the conference can have two divisions and claim to have 4 power players, but that's always struck me as just smoke and mirrors, albeit good for the polls and the BCS.

 

"the only numbers the sec wants to discuss"

Well....I am a fan of the SEC for sure but College Football News wrote this article on SEC supremacy.

I think they find it more important that LSU beat Oklahoma in a BCS bowl when all was on the line more than SC beating Auburn in the regular season.

I am certain that USC is as highly regarded if not more so by CFN than any team in the SEC.

However.....USC is not a Conference and the only other team making a splash in that conference is Cal and they got clocked in their only true moment on the national stage at Tenn.

 

I see.....well how about last year - 2-1 in favor of the Big 10. Not good enough? How about last 5 years? 8-6 in favor of the Big 10. It would appear that "what has happened recently" is quite consistent with that which has happened forever.....as I said, you'd have a more compelling case if the facts did not run counter to your claims of supremacy.

 

Cal's "only true moment on the national stage" was their season opening game at Tennessee?

Come again? :?

 

BT....you wanna compare 6-8 to 7-1 with those 7 wins coming in BCS Bowls?

Also....the supremacy claim is not my creation it is CFN but I do agree that the SEC appears to be stronger than most conferences at present especially when you take last year's BCS Championship game win by Fla and combine it with LSU over Okla and throw in the other 5 BCS wins by the SEC since '01.

Rick....last year's game btw Tenn-Cal was touted as Cal's "national" coming out party if I am not mistaken. I guess I can't remember what they have done outside of the Pac-10 and even in the Pac-10 when was their last championship?

 

It's difficult for me to see how one can be found superior to another when one loses more often than wins when playing head-to-head against the other........no spin, no selective recall, no favorable selection criteria.

If, when you play, you lose more than you win, how is it possible to have any credible claim of superiority? It's not.....facts are very pesky things.

 

MCG -

You made the assertion that Cal's "only true moment on the national stage" was their season opening game at Tennessee. You don't consider a nationally televised bowl game at the end of the season to be a true moment on the national stage? :?

 

Since 7-1 in BCS Bowls doesn't seem to work for some I thought I would go back and look at the SAME period of time which is all games back to 2001 and BT...here it is...

The SEC is 12-10 vs. the Big Ten in that period of time in all games.

Facts...numbers....as requested.

 

First of all, let me stand corrected as it relates to an earlier post....

That was erroneous...my bad. Believe it or not, I fell victim to some bad info on the web without verifying....imagine?!

That said, the bowl records of the two conferences were 2-1 in favor of the Big 10 last year. 8-6 in favor of the Big 10 over the last 5 years and 13-13 over the last decade. Hardly supportive of an SEC supremacy claim.

I'm not surprised that you managed to find a source that could selectively parse the data in a manner beneficial to your claims, but in the face of the existence of other relevant data that runs counter to the supremacy claim, it would be fair to say that the argument is far from compelling and reasonable people may reach a differnt conclusion.....

 

And so it begins. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

"I'm not surprised that you managed to find a source"

These numbers of 12-10 are actual games played between the SEC and Big Ten since the beginning of the 2001 season. I did "manage" to find numbers that were within the parameters of the CFN article and that makes sense.

One of the 10 wins for the Big 10 was Vandy at Michigan...hardly all that impressive.

The article is based on the conference's BCS Bowl record alone vs. the nation and those numbers are correct.

You can argue overall strength of the two conferences and yes....12-10 is not dominant and so maybe the Big Ten is right behind the SEC in strength and if you want to argue that point then maybe it works...until the BCS Bowl national stage kicks in.

Note I refer to BCS Bowls and not the Music City bowl between a victorious Minn over an average Arkansas.