And has 2 scholarships removed. Only USC is a bigger bunch of cheaters than the Goomers. So the Texas A&M record just improved to 6-6!!!
:lol: Does this mean Ok will forfeit the second game of this season vs the Canes?......maybe, perhaps? NCAA: Oklahoma Must Forfeit 2005 Season By MURRAY EVANS,AP Posted: 2007-07-11 16:16:35 OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - The Oklahoma football program must forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years. The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership. The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the forfeitures, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-27. Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010. Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011. Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team. "Although this case centered on a few violations involving three student-athletes, the committee finds this case to be significant and serious for several reasons," the NCAA report said, noting the length of time of the violations and the fact that Oklahoma had appeared before the committee in April 2006 regarding violations in its men's basketball program. On Aug. 3 - the day before the Sooners began preseason practice - Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports. That led to a subsequent NCAA investigation. The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations. During the investigation, the university disputed that allegation, arguing that the NCAA should applaud, not penalize, its efforts to root out violations and noted that NCAA president Myles Brand told one news outlet that the university "acted with integrity in taking swift and decisive action" in the case. Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility. Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools - Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana - where they can resume their careers this season. Oklahoma officials also appeared before the Committee on Infractions in April 2006 following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff. Oklahoma escaped major sanctions in that case, as the NCAA Committee on Infractions found the university guilty of a "failure to monitor," a less severe ruling than "lack of institutional control," which had been recommended by the NCAA's enforcement staff. The committee moved Oklahoma's self-imposed probation so it would begin in May 2006 and end in May 2008. The NCAA also issued a public reprimand and censure but otherwise accepted the university's self-imposed sanctions, which included reductions in scholarships, recruiting calls and trips and visits to the school by prospective recruits.
Are you F'ing kidding me??? What a joke the NCAA is. OU is already on probation so it gets extended??? What is the definition of "Institutional Control"??? They could have at least given them a bowl ban. Two scholarships isn't even a slap on the wrist!!!
OKIE <r>Personally I think they should lose 10 scholarships a year for the next 5, no bowl appearances for the next 5, and be forced to declare that Texas will always be superior in in every aspect of college and high school Football than Oklahoma. That should do it I think. <br/> <br/> Oh yeah, one more thing. They need to forfeit the NC they won a couple years back to. <E>:lol:</E></r>
8) Oklahoma college football is huge business in that state. Just recently has that program recovered from severe past NCAA sanctions....it took a very long time. It seems innocous and quite hypocritical that Ohio State had far major issues dealing with Clarett involving fake term papers, new cars on loan......paid for work at dealerhips without showing up....etc.....BUT NOW...we have Okla doing the right thing by disclosing a rather innoccous violation......and EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR HEAD in a platter. Stay with an even-handed attitude towards all college football programs that break the rules.....THEN...perhaps I will take more notice on what people say
The NCAA does what they want to do. They enforce their rules selectively and the level of their sanctions are arbitrary and illogical. Nothing surprises me anymore. :x
Innocuous??? Two guys (there were more, but that wasn't pursued) were each paid $18000.00 for 3 months of part time work that they NEVER even showed up for, and you call that innocuous?? Wow... I guess I've got it all wrong. :roll:
"The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership." " The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations." "Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility. Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools — Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana — where they can resume their careers this season. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a blip in anyone's radar....totally insignificant and bloated in comparison to Maurice Clarett and certainly to many felony transgressions by Florida under Spurrier and Zook, VaTech under Beamer and FSU under Bowden. Low level pittance for anyone here to claim righteousness over Oklahoma versus a hypocritical attitude regarding other major football programs. Why shouldn't stealing or beating up your girlfriend or resisting arrest or plain burglary be of less consequence?....The NC2A has no punitive actions on criminality or even fair-handed treatment of a comparison of Oklahoma versus Ohio State. Its a joke
Good old Gonz.....nuttin' but the facts. Your assessment of the Borg backhand was more accurate. Your perfect record remains intact......extraordinary. "It's better to remain silent......"
:lol: In comparing what Oklahoma did. Ohio State should have been penalized by forfeiting an ill gotten NC in 2002. I guess crookedness prevailed over righteousness. OU is forced to forfeit a previous season record....but oh no....not OSU. That '02 NC will now have a double asterisk.
Gonz, thanks for bringing back fond memories..... it helps us put things in solid historical perspective. In stark contrast to our most recent visit, the majority of our trips to the desert have been very, very pleasant. Keep up the good work. :wink:
Just because its still called "a win"...it was done with dirty hands and paid athletes.....much worse than the Oklahoma example that somehow woke up the NCAA to make OU forfeit a season. Thats why that '02 NC now has a double asterisk...who knows?....maybe a conscience attack will make a remorseful ref confess or a now-righteous NCAA take the appropriate and long overdue steps in crowning the right heir to that '02 NC Which is, of course, Miami 8) :lol: