LSU coach takes an axe to his roster.

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I've never seen anything like this reported. Maybe it goes on all the time, but not publicised. I'd be interested in JO'Co or Corey's take on this situation.

    A poster on NDNation, who is a member here (TerryD), said that in Louisiana that if you are a resident and maintain a 2.0 GPA and take 12 hours they have something called a TOPs program where the state pays your tuition. Which if you notice he's running off mainly out of state guys.
    LSU Coach Runs off Players
     
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    I would think that it's normal for a coach to want to bring in his type of player. Also, and Corey can confirm or refute this, I believe that there is no waiting period in baseball for transfers, so the players cut could easily land on their feet at another program and play immediately, perhaps with the same amount or more scholarship money than they had at LSU. I would tend to side with the coach, not because he is from ND, but because of his successful track record at ND compared to this year's LSU record. Now, if his own players don't produce better results, then it falls squarely on him.
     
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    <t>Legislation from the NCAA has stopped the immediate trasfer rule in baseball. Last week I read where there is some appeal going on from coaches to stop the passed 33% minimum to each baseball recruit. I'm guessing this will go into the summer before its all hammered out.</t>
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Larry did the A&M coach do this after his first year (last year)?
     
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    I'm not familiar with these rules. I'll go wake up Corey...
     
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    Terry...

    <t>Yes he did and signed a load of new guys that allowed them to have a very good year and a win over Texas yesterday. A&M is all over the Houston area recruiting and why not. No such thing as a down year here in HS baseball.</t>
     
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    a couple of things to consider here

    <t>in regards to this specific situation. If the kid has been released from his scholarship, or had his scholarship/funding removed then he is free to transfer even under the new legislation I believe. He should be able to play immediately for the next school he attends.<br/>
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    If that were not the case, you would be punishing kids not for changing their minds, but rather for the decisions of the administration at the previous institution. That would not hold up one day in court. The NCAA makes a lot of 'questionable' decisions, but not that stupid (speaking of that, I have another topic to create about Duke Lacrosse).<br/>
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    Now if the kid up and transfers and is not released from his scholarship, then I believe he should sit out. That wasn't always the case in baseball, but I do believe that is what the new legislation will deal with in terms of baseball transfer eligibility.<br/>
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    As far as the LSU sitiation goes, the coach is in a tough spot here. Skip is a certified bayou legend, and I think the best way to look at this situation is view it as akin to the football situation at Alabama.<br/>
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    Skip retired and they stayed 'in house' with a hand picked successor and that situation didn't fair well. Coach M wants to win his way, but not making the SEC tourney this year really put an extra weight on his back. I think he would be facing these immense pressures to change so rapidly has they made the SEC tourney and gone a few rounds into it.<br/>
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    Basically, he is going to have Skip's formula of success looming over his head and any decision to go another route will be immediately questioned by at least half of the supporters there. The Delta is a GREAT baseball area, and there is another goldmine of players that are located between Red Stick and Texas. LSU supporters believe that the core of the players should come from that area, and so did Skip. Now that isn't to say he didn't get players from other areas, but the ones that he did bring in were 'sure thing' 5 star type players. Skip also wasn't burdened by the new eligibility/transfer rules coming down from the NCAA, so he could bring in the talent by the truckload and whatever stuck stayed, and whatever didn't work out was free to move on.<br/>
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    If Coach M is to succeed at LSU, he is going to have to make the most of it using Skip's formula until he has established enough success on his own so that he can go his own route and do his own thing. It may seem odd to ND fans, and admirers of college baseball abroad who appreciate what he did with a 'northern' school. At a school like LSU, all that career achievement is only worth a shot at the job and nothing more. He's on a short rope and is making the best moves that are not only in his best interest, but in the best interest of the program/boosters.. That usually doesn't equate into winning games... so we'll see.</t>