Terrible situation evolving in the Bengals/Bills game.

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    A player has had to have CPR on the field after a hit, Damar Hamlin of the Bills. They worked on him using both CPR and AED's were used and he reportedly had a pulse but not breathing on his own when he left.

    Game temporarily suspended. I don't know how those players can go back on the field and play this game.
     
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    I do not see how this game can continue this evening, nor should the game be continued.:(
     
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  4. Stu Ryckman

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    Look up Commotio Cordis. Praying for him.
     
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  5. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Reviewing CPR stats it's not good. 10% survival for out of hospital cpr and only 20% survival for in hospital CPR. Also from what I read many who survive are never the same.


    CPR Statistics
    According to the American Heart Association, Of the more than 300,000 cardiac arrests that occur annually in the United States, the success rate is typically lower than 10% for out-of-hospital cardiac and lower than 20% for in-hospital cardiac. Bystander CPR initiated within minutes of the onset of arrest has increased the victim’s chances of survival. It has also been demonstrated that out-of-hospital cardiac arrests in public areas are more likely to be associated with initial ventricular fibrillation or pulseless ventricular tachycardia and have better survival rates.

    What should be the appropriate duration of cardiopulmonary resuscitation
     
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    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    That must be what happened to him Stu

    Commotio cordis (Latin, "agitation of the heart") is an often lethal disruption of heart rhythm that occurs as a result of a blow to the area directly over the heart (the precordial region) at a critical time during the cycle of a heart beat, producing what is termed an R-on-T phenomenon that leads to the condition. It is a form of ventricular fibrillation (V-Fib), not mechanical damage to the heart muscle or surrounding organs, and not the result of heart disease. The survival rate is 58%, which is an increase in comparison to years 1993–2012, where only 34% victims survived. This increase is likely caused by the prompt CPR, access to defibrillation and higher public awareness of this condition.[1]

    Commotio cordis occurs mostly in boys and young men (average age 15), usually during sports, most frequently baseball, often despite a chest protector. It is usually caused by a projectile, but can also be caused by the blow of an elbow or other body part. Being less developed, the thorax of an adolescent is likely more prone to this injury given the circumstances.
     
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    Stunning as the contact seemed pretty ordinary from a football standpoint. The article T posted talks about a 58% survival rate so that gives me hope that this young man can pull through this.
     
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  8. Terry O'Keefe

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    Horrible. In 1968 we had a senior football player die on the field during summer practice in high school. It was cardiac related as well. Of course, back then they lacked the training, equipment and techniques to deal with that situation in a meaningful way. I was a freshman and his brother was practicing with me and the freshman team just 200 yards away. It was horrible.
     
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    I was at the Silverdome when Reggie Brown went down with a severe spinal injury and needed CPR. Barry Sanders had just rushed over the 2000 yd. mark for the season. Barry who had been on the field when Mike Utley went down retired shortly after that season. I believe it was seeing those 2 catastrophic injuries that led to his retirement in the prime of his career.
     
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    That rare condition has gotten a lot of coverage here in Indy and elsewhere. Scary.
     
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    Good News

    Damar Hamlin is speaking and had his breathing tube removed Friday, the Buffalo Bills announced. He has also been able to communicate with teammates via FaceTime, the team said.

    "He continues to progress remarkably in his recovery," the Bills said in a statement. "His neurologic function remains intact and he has been able to talk to his family and care team."
     
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    One of the first things that Hamlin wrote out was "did we win the game." Gotta love football players.
     
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    The most important words for me after his heart stopped and had to be restarted. Unfortunately, too often when this happens the patient's brain function is damaged beyond recovery.
     
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    His remarkable recovery is due 100% to the actions of the emergency medical personnel in those first nine minutes on the stadium turf.
     
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    I'm sincerely thankful that this young man's life was save and he appears to be on the road to recovering. MUCH gratitude needs to be given to the medical personnel on the field that obviously save him!
    It's probably a bit of irony that the least paid individuals of the field that night were those that turned our to be the most valuable.
     
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    They always are. The most valuable folks in our society are some of the most underpaid folks in our society.
     
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