College Football 2020

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    They were talking about this on ESPNU on the drive into the office. They said that the top players in the Big 10 who have NFL prospects are likely to opt out of any Spring season in order to get ready for the NFL draft and also that playing a 8 or 10 game Spring Season, then NFL camps, and NFL season in 2021 is just too much to ask the kids bodies to handle.
     
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    Bill, Shaun Wade the Ohio State CB and a top 10 NFL prospect said today that he is opting out of his senior season to prepare for the NFL draft. I won't be shocked though if the Big 10 announces that they will play this fall starting in Mid October if some or all of the Big 10 kids who have announced that they are opting out don't change their minds and decide to play.
     
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    I see that the Pac 12 is starting to think about playing in 2020, but reportedly not till Mid November. That would mean no CFP since the 4 teams will be chosen around right after Dec 19th when the ACC/SEC/B12 championships will have been determined. If they play their Championship in early January it's too late.

    Big 10 will maybe be able to play enough games if they start mid October, they could squeeze in 10 games including the Big 10 Championship by Dec 19th.

    What I'm wondering about is what if the top teams don't play the same amount of games? It certainly seems that since we've already had games cancelled/postponed that it's highly likely that we reach the end of the season with some teams playing 7 or 8 games, some playing 9 maybe a few playing all 10 games ( in the case of ACC teams 11 games). How will the committee handle the top teams all having played a different amount of games. Of course I have no doubt that any undefeated Conf champion will get in the CFP even if they have played fewer games than others. It's the 1 loss teams, 8-1 vs 9-1 or in the case of the ACC 10-1. It will likely be a tad controversial to say the least.
     
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    I also won't be shocked if we have a 2 loss team in the CFP this year.
     
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    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Heisman Watch is out. No shock that Trevor Lawrence is #1. He deserves it right now.

    But come on 1 game for Spencer Rattler and he's #2? I mean Sam Ehlinger is a 4th year starter and had just as good a game as Rattler did in the opener and he's behind Rattler. Travis Etienne at # 4 is fair he's a helluva RB. Chubba Hubbard at #5 is fair he's also a helluva RB. These things always go up and down, likely Trevor will stay #1 as long as Clemson keeps winning. Justin Fields will be back in the rankings if the Big 10 goes ahead and plays, he's a great QB.

    Prediction...if Alabama goes undefeated Mac Jones will be in the mix.
     
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    OK so count LSU as a team that has some sort of herd immunity now. Eddie O said most, but not all, the team has had Covid. So according to SEC rules they don't have to test these guys for 90 days, pretty much the rest of the season.

    Orgeron: 'Most' of his team has contracted virus
     
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    So old Ed did the smart thing: put 'em all in a room together so they could get it over with...
    Hate that mumbling bastard!
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    Re Ed, If he had the virus and spoke to the team in the locker room, pretty sure each player got at least a drop of Ed’s spittle on him.
     
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    With only three P5 conferences playing (so far) will B12 still be left out of the CFP?

    OU and tu of course took care of business, as did WV (Missouri St., UTEP, and E. Kentucky). In the mean time:
    - ISU loses to Louisiana by 2 TDs and a FG
    - TT survives Houston Baptist by a safety
    - KSU loses to Arkansas St. by 2 safeties
    - KU loses to Coastal Carolina by 2 TDs, one with a 2 pt. conversion

    Meanwhile, Baylor and TCU avoid potential embarrassment through deferral of gameplay.

    B12, better be careful, now that the whipping boy conference P12 is out, all paddles are pointed at you! Even if OU or tu goes undefeated, is there enough conference strength to place them above the 10th place ACC or SEC finisher? :p
     
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  11. Terry O'Keefe

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    If either Texas or OU end up as 1 loss B12 champs they will likely be in the mix for the CFP. Right now with 4 conferences playing it will be pretty easy for the committee to just give the slots to each conference champion assuming that we don't have some sort of situation where a 4 loss team wins a conference championship game. 1 loss Conf Champs are in, undefeated Conf Champs are in. Only way I can see a Conf Champ loser getting in is if one of the Conf Champs is as I said a 4 loss upset winner or something like that.

    I'm not sure if it will even be possible with the new 9 and 10 game conference only schedules for the Conf Champ game to feature 2 undefeated teams, not that happens very much anyway.
     
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    From an article on the Mercury-News...

    Following the Big Ten’s announcement on Wednesday morning, commissioner Larry Scott issued the following statement to the Hotline :

    “At this time, our universities in California and Oregon do not have approval from state or local public health officials to start contact practice. We are hopeful that our new daily testing capability can help satisfy public health official approvals in California and Oregon to begin contact practice and competition. We are equally closely monitoring the devastating fires and air quality in our region at this time. We are eager for our student-athletes to have the opportunity to play this season, as soon as it can be done safely and in accordance with public health authority approvals.”

    Combine the wildfires and the state-level restrictions, and the Pac-12 currently faces challenges far greater than the other Power Fives — challenges that will take time to resolve.

    We don’t expect the presidents to vote on a return-to-play plan until later this month, at the earliest.

    The rapid-response antigen tests made by Quidel are due on the campuses by Sept. 30 and, according to computer modeling, will reduce infectiousness by 100 percent.

    But even with the antigen tests, the California and Oregon schools — with help from the conference office — must convince state authorities to lift restrictions currently preventing the six teams from practicing.

    The Pac-12 must do everything possible, apply maximum pressure, to sway California and Oregon officials.

    Big Ten restarts, and Pac-12 must do the same (whatever it takes)
     
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    That's what ya get when you live in the People's Republic of Kalifornia.
     
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    o_O Are these the same computer models that are used for climatology? I would love to see what assumptions spit out model results of:

    Rapid-response antigen test availability = 0% infectiousness
     
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    Testing has squadoosh to do with infectiousness. Giving the benefit of the doubt that they didn't mean "infectiousness" but rather meant INFECTIONS, there are still significant issues:

    1) Testing availability has squadoosh to do with identifying everyone that could be or become infected
    2) ENFORCING UNIVERSAL testing AT BEST will tell you everyone RIGHT NOW that is infected within that forced population (assuming 100% accuracy, which it isn't, and assuming this is specifically for the football team members. And the coaching and medical staff. And the trainers and assistants. And the cooks and tutors. And anyone that might come within 10' of that population, or touch any of the same surfaces as that population.)
    3) Enforced universal testing + perfect contact tracing (impossible) will tell you everyone RIGHT NOW who COULD BECOME infected
    4) Enforced universal testing + perfect contact tracing + totalitarian isolation of all identified cases MIGHT prevent additional infections OF THAT GROUP

    The test is not 100% accurate, and a single false negative would nullify all other efforts and assumptions.

    But, there is a way to guarantee a reduction of infections by 100%? Putting everyone in this same group in separate prison isolation cells for two weeks, then let them co-mingle in general population together thereafter, with no outside contact.

    P12. Listening to the experts.
     
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    NCAA has extended the dead period in recruiting through the end of the year. No in person recruiting, no paid campus official visits, recruits and their coaches can't be given tickets to games.

    The Division I Council extended the recruiting dead period through Jan. 1. The Council has been reviewing the dead period on a regular basis since April. A dead period precludes all in-person recruiting. Phone calls and correspondence can continue to occur.

    Members also adopted emergency legislation prohibiting schools from giving complimentary game tickets to prospective student-athletes and their high school or two-year college coaches during the dead period.
     
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    Interesting. With the early signing date and no in-person recruiting, it kind of changes the dynamic.
     
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    Made a batch of these and sent them to Commisioner Warren for a job well done. They're a PSU favorite....Dickled Eggs.

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  20. Terry O'Keefe

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    I would agree, since the Dec signing date was approved more kids each year have signed in Dec and the Feb date as become sort of an after thought. I wonder if there will be more kids waiting till Feb this year so they can maybe get an official visit to campus.

    Again in the past many of these kids looked at their official visits as sort of party trips and they wanted to take them all if for no other reason than the party that happens where they get fawned over by everybody. I'm sure more than a few even took visits to schools that they truly had no interest in signing with just for the trip. I'm also sure that lots of kids were sincere and brought their parents with them.

    Anyway it will be interesting to see if there are a lot of current verbals who don't sign LOI's in Dec.