I guess Bobda and every other maize and blue blooded fan is doing cartwheels over the possibility that Urban Meyer is in deep doodoo over the domestic battery case involving one of his coaches at OSU. He has been placed on administrative leave over the issue.... but seriously all of you celebrating UM fans.... when it is so damn hard to build a brand back up in CFB these days... witness OU, ND, Florida, Tenn et. al... there is no way in hell that Ohio State cuts him loose.
How long was this dude beating his wife? Also, 2 words for you. Joe Pa. If he could get fired by the very mountain he built, anyone can be fired.
Not doing cartwheels. I do not get any joy watching the social media feeding frenzy that takes place on a weekly basis nowdays. Twitter seems to provide millions of assholes a public forum to engage in shabby virtue signaling and the opportunity to condemn someone over an event where all of the facts are not yet known.
BOBDA...if you had to do a cartwheel...could you pull it off? Michigan fans have their hands full with Harbaugh anyway...hey, is it true Coach H told the team to not have chicken in their diet...because it's a nervous bird?
Answers to Qustions: 1. No 2. Yep. But, I think chickens have a legitimate reason to be nervous. Guess we will not be invited to the Chik-Fil-A Peach Bowl in the near future.
I don't really take any joy out of a coach going through the wringer, but times have changed and years ago this wouldn't have been a problem. But this is the #MeToo generation and it is what it is. I can some what see what Urban was dealing with, this guy was like family to him. He considered Earl Bruce like a 2nd father and Zach was his grandson. He won't get a pass from the media on that basis though. As far as Ohio State firing him, they fired Jim Tressel and JT was very successful had the program at a high level. Circumstances were different and Tressel hurt himself by lying about covering up the Tattoo scandal that was what got him. So I don't think Ohio State will have a problem firing Urban. The question is who would be the next coach. They have had had a good string of hires since Woody, sure Earl Bruce and John Cooper didn't live up to expectations but both those guys had pretty good records in their time at Ohio State. Urban really fell into their laps, he was out of coaching for a year and Ohio State was one of his dream jobs when he was a young coach. You could say he was tanned and rested. If JT handled Tattoogate differently and is not fired, I wonder where Urban would have landed.
A special committee has been appointed by the OSU Board of trustees to try and sort out the facts in their investigation of what Urban did know or not know. The local suburban police department is refusing to let the media see their reports. This is turning into a soap opera. The damage is done to Coach Meyer and the university. No winners here. Fans are upset, etc.
I've often said that in the old days of 90 scholarships and cemented coaching legends like Bear Bryant, Bo Schembechler and Woody Hayes **** in fact did happen under their watch and the UPD in their communities and the NCAA police simply looked the other way or were stymied by brick walls thrown at them. Kids and coaches aren't just suddenly bad actors and miscreants who never existed in those terms 50 years ago. CEOs, top movie stars and directors and many others in the highest of places all have their bad behavior and poor judgement come out to bite them in the ass these days with the one single person in America who acts and speaks with impunity being Teflon Don Trump. And ironically Trump's shenanigans would never have been tolerated 50 years ago. Go figure..... :shock: :lol:
You are a most unhappy fellow, Dave. Trump's shenanigans? Are you talking about his alleged trysts? Would not have been tolerated 50 years ago? You're joking, right? Didn't FDR stroke out while with his mistress? JFK was legendary while in office. Books have been written about his philandering.
Take sex completely out of the Trump equation and you still have a guy that would have been eviscerated by just about everyone on both sides of aisle 50 years ago and certainly by the media.... which lo and behold did not include the ******** fake news network that is Fox News.
Dave how did you feel when Urban was at UF and a lot of his players arrested and of course Hernandez? Have you seen the video of former UF players saying that Urban abused players while at UF?
I saw where Mullen has a no weapons policy, but when a player was caught with an assault rifle (AR 15), that he claimed he needed for protection from the locals, Mullen decided it was really situational. What do you think Dave?
My feeling is Mullen has his own clean slate at UF and will create his own legacy there.... unrelated to Meyer's. And I don't buy in that Meyer ran a renegade program at UF.... but he did have some mentally ill scum like Hernandez on the roster for sure.
I am not surprised that you don't think he ran a renegade program at UF, even though I have read that UF had 31 players arrested while he was there. He did win 2 Nat'l Championships and had Tim Tebow who clearly is a good guy, and was one of the greatest college players of his era. But you seem to be quick to throw him under the bus at Ohio State. FWIW on both the Texas and ND boards posters are pretty much doing the same and the guys I play golf with who are from a lot of different colleges are also certain that he's guilty as charged. Bottom line is there isn't much support for him outside Columbus I guess. Clearly this whole situation is made worse by the fact that the WR coach is accused of being a wife beater, and that Urban knew and now it's being said that Gene Smith the AD also knew. Now Zach Smith claims he isn't a wife beater and the police aren't releasing the information they have about the alleged incidents. I see that Ohio State has stated that the investigation will be over in 2 weeks. If Urban is allowed back as the coach the media and fans of other programs are going to scream cover up to protect the guy who has won a Nat'l Championship and who clearly is one of the 3 best coaches in college football.
I had zero intention of throwing Urban under the bus for this issue ongoing at OSU or any issue he has handled in the past. I met his wife in the elevator in Ky. and his sister in the lobby there before a game once and they seemed like genuine very nice people. I do believe he is a strong family man with a sense of fair mindedness that sometimes looks as if he is coddling the bad actors rather than trying to work with them and give them a chance. I think if you delve closely into the 31 arrests at UF you'll fine some that were deserved and judicious but there's a few of them sprinkled in there that speak of the overzealousness I have mentioned before of the UPD in Gainesville. I do not believe at all that Urban sought out bad actors for his football team with a don't care attitude as long as they are winning, etc. And I do not think he does that at OSU either.
I will say this however.... Urban Meyer was a much better communicator and handler of his players than was Jim McElwain. If Meyer were our coach two years ago us Gator fans would be preparing to see if Will Grier could win a Heisman trophy this season instead of the fans at West Virginia.
:? This is complicated. Zach Smith is Earl Bruce's grandson. It was Earl Bruce who gave Urban Meyer his first coaching opportunity as a graduate assistant...
Jo'Co, You are exactly right on that Jim. The ESPN interview with Zac's ex-wife has created a firestorm. Right now I think Urban will remain our coach but be suspended for several games to appease others.