I experienced a couple of opposite end of the spectrum visits to restaurant venues that shows you how the GOP has it's bases covered. I was with my wife and we stopped in Ralph's neck of the woods.... Arcadia, Fl. and we ate at a country fried chicken/ good vittles restaurant called Terra Fried Chicken that was filled with lot's of local white country folk who I am quite certain were all Trump voters to a man and woman.... probably without exception. Excellent food I might add! Then that night in Jupiter, Fl. we dined at George's favorite dive bar filled with a ton of his millionaire Trump lovin friends.... The Dive Bar.... which was anything but... $$$$ ouch! lol Two very opposite groups.... one brainwashed into believing that by some miracle they will benefit from having a GOP congress and President and the other group.... knowing full well that they benefit immensely from the transfer of wealth that the GOP brings to them. Very interesting dichotomy of the Florida GOP voting base.
In spite of Scott and Ralph's claims of "rurality" I think the Trump Skyboxers here would find themselves sitting next to George at The Dive Bar..... :wink: 8)
Trump is quite possibly the most dangerous politician in our nation's history due to his willingness to throw any and all under the bus if it elevates his status with his base: https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/donald-trump-montana-speech/index.html The people in the Terra Chicken restaurant just eat this stuff up..... and that's the audience he is directing this fabricated crap to. I do give most of those at The Dive Bar enough credit to think for themselves and engage their reasonable and logical brain when it comes to listening to Trump's self-promotional rhetoric.
The most dangerous force in our country is the media like CNN that somehow after all the times that they been shown to have completely distorted the truth still have influence on the weak minded. Despite incessant anti-Trump reporting every day Trump's favor-ability rating continues to rise. Why? Because some Americans have actually realized that unemployment is down. That taxes have been reduced. That petty tyrants like Asad and Kim have learned that American is no longer led by a gelding. Our NATO "allies" have awakened to the fact that we know that they don't spend their fair share on defense and we aren't going to put up with their **** any longer. China that has been abusing us in so many ways is finally meeting with serious resistance. Meanwhile the weak minded and ignorant think that Trump is "dangerous." Yeah, he is....to CNN and their flock.
Totally unrelated to this discussion: Did you see the Daily Show do the side by side coverage of North Korean television reporting on the meeting with Trump, and FoxNews covering Trump's meeting with that crazy Hermit bastard?? It was positively hilarious. They were twins. Related to this conversation: Some of Trump's followers are more dangerous than he is and he's got the codes. You may remember I took Carson to the now somewhat famous "Alabama rally" in Madison. When people started asking who we were voting for, I explained that 1. I don't know and 2. I brought my son to show him a part of the American political process. People absolutely lost their ****, calling me a libtard and all sorts of names. I didn't say I wasn't voting for Trump, I simply said I wasn't sure at this time who I was voting for but I surely wouldn't be voting for Hillary. That still didn't sooth them. At one point in time, there was a mix up over the lines to get in (because you had to stand for hours waiting to get in and it wasn't well planned at all). Literally everyone saw what happened as there was a person on the hired security detail that said there was a new gate opening. Turns out, they were wrong. As the people like me tried to make our way back over to the regular line, some people who had been way behind us started making a big fuss and screaming that all of us were 'line cutters.' It was absolutely childish, but one of the Trump security guys came over and started, literally, pushing and bullying people to get in the back of the line. Well, no one puts their hands on me and even fewer will do that to my son. The next thing you know, this little pickle chugger is nose to my nipples while I'm daring him to touch either me, or my son again. (I'm admittedly crazy, I'll kill you. My son is trained in 3 styles of martial arts and he wrestles for fun. He'll turn you inside out and do it with a smile on his face. He's not even mean or crazy, he just does that **** for fun. He's also bigger and stronger than I am.) Next thing you know, Billy Bad Ass is calling for backup and starts walking away. I even made eye contact with a guy and his wife who I had known professionally for 15 years. We asked aloud if anyone was going to say, or do, the right thing. People in the front just didn't want to risk their position in line and the people who were in the back, who now slid up, were screaming the loudest that we were all line cutters. We said **** it and went all the way to the back of the line. But something struck me then, as it does now about Trump supporters. There's the ones up front who stand to gain directly from Trump's policies. There's no shame in their game and their shouldn't be. They are directly benefiting from the courses he takes. Then, there's those in the back. They're the ones who like Trump because he was rich, or on TV, or they somehow deemed him to be 'successful' as a businessman. They don't know success and they don't have money. They just want in on a winner that is white and doesn't scare them. My view on die hard Trump supporters has been the same ever since. I've seen no empirical evidence to change my mind. Make no mistake though, money, or fear, and sometimes both is the thing that drives them. An interesting side note, Madison county where the wealthier and more educated folks in North Alabama live was blood red for Trump, but it turned blue in the last election cycle by a wide margin. Something to keep and eye on, for sure... Not that "Alabama is America" or anything like that. There's still the poor white people who just love the **** out of Trump, even though many of the Administration's policies have actually hurt them. Some people just can't be helped, I suppose. Still, there's a lot of good people who support Trump for the simple and fair reason that his policies directly benefit them. There's nothing wrong with that. Back to an unrelated note, I've seen several politicians and candidates speak. By far and away, the best public speaker was Bill Clinton. I hated the Clinton Administration, but give the Devil his due, that boy could talk circles around Trump. If the two debated, it wouldn't even be close. Fortunately, Trump only had to face Bill's sinister and scheming wife who holds absolutely none of the traits that made Bill what he was/is. Well, none of the positive ones anyway.
The profiling on this topic is shocking and funny. If you're white you are a Trump supporter. Same goes if you are a "country" person. Likewise, if you voted for Trump it is because you expect to be personally enriched. These kind of sophomoric labels are the basis for discussion? Time for some of you to up your games. I voted for him because he see things as they are and knows how to get things done quickly. That's it. At this point, I would vote for him again without hesitation. And I predict that the GOP, in spite of itself, will cruise in the midterms. Now, which label do you want to hang on me?
"There's still the poor white people who just love the **** out of Trump, even though many of the Administration's policies have actually hurt them. Some people just can't be helped, I suppose. Still, there's a lot of good people who support Trump for the simple and fair reason that his policies directly benefit them. There's nothing wrong with that." Corey you and I certainly seem to be in pretty close agreement on Trump. Hell if I could personally become wealthier by the stroke of his pen why wouldn't I support the imbecile to remain in office and do just that? Otherwise he threatens the foundation that America is built upon because he tears everything down just to prop himself up without offering any constructive rebuilding or changes in the system. His insistence much to the delight of those dumb supporters you mention that he knows more about everything than anyone else including educated experts in their field is downright ludicrous and frightening. His creation of "they" as you put it so correctly galvanizes the uneducated and poor white folk into believing he is their savior when he really deep down only cares about himself and his image. [/quote]
By the way my lawyer friend who we visited in Jupiter is pretty well connected in Palm Beach county and she says Trump is well known locally not to pay contractors for work done at his Maralago estate... which isn't surprising to hear about a man who is such a great businessman and stand-up guy he stiffed many many hard working people with his six bankruptcies.
Exactly one of us in this thread lives anywhere near the country and that's me. I'm telling you that is 100% Trump country and he does absolutely nothing to benefit them. If they were smart, they'd relocate to the other parts of Alabama where there is impending growth. But they won't, all they are worried about is libtards taking their guns. George, Since you asked, I'd place you at a minimum in the upper middle class business owner group. You're the bread and butter of the Trump base. Likewise, you see the man as a genius. If this guy can really do no wrong, then why can't he pick a cabinet?