Since others like to use their own preferred ratings services for strength of schedule discussions I decided to find one that we all can really trust as one that has "got it right".... http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119 Wow....guess who is numero uno in SOS? These guys are truly experts at what they do! I vote we use CBSSportsline as "THE" official strength of schedule ranking service for Skybox discussions.
sure <t>why not use the SEC's channel as 'the' best source of SOS rankings. Its about for the course for southern football.</t>
From Sid's post on another topic... By the way, for what it's worth, the updated Sagarin schedule rankings as of today for teams of interest to those involved in this "discussion" are as follows: USC #3 Michigan #13 Notre Dame #19 LSU #25 Florida #27 Ohio State #36 Arkansas #49
For many years Sagarin has been the most respected objective source for evaluating schedule strength, but there are plenty of others out there. You just need to pick one that suits your agenda. Looks like you've done that.
The funny thing is I know I could go back a few years where Sagarin actually favored Florida and some of you (not sure which ones exactly) at that time dismissed Sagarin as a quack. I will say he was not a quack then but maybe these days he a walks like duck..talks like a ....etc.. What say we go with CBS Sportsline?
Or the NCAA's SOS sorted on cumulative opposition records: http://www.ncaasports.com/football/mens/stats/stats Florida's cumulative opposition is 81-45. No other team has played a schedule with opponents who have won over 80 games. Of course this just will not suit some of you blah...blah....blah-ers... Hey...UF could have traveled to Michigan instead of opting for a home revenue game vs. W. Carolina (again a last second home fill-in for those who are slow) and then the cumulative opposition record would be 90-36. Somehow that wouldn't be good enough for you SEC-Gator haters either.
..... <t>I'm pretty sure your source just awarded Alabama another national title for the firing of Shula. What's wrong? You didn't have the Gainesville Chamber of Commerce SOS rankings to post?</t>
NCAA and CBS Sportsline...... 81-45 INCLUDING 2-10 W Car and 4-8 UCF. That's 18 of the 45 losses. 40% of the losses came from 16% of the teams on the schedule. That would tell me the other 10 teams on the schedule are pretty damned competitive as a group.
hahaha <t>numbers only get you that, numbers.<br/> <br/> An 8-4 SoMiss couldn't beat UCLA. An 8-4 Georgia would struggle to beat them. I think that would depend on where the game is played, but then again, we'd never see them outside the south so I guess that doesn't matter. 7-5 Kentucky wouldn't do it either. <br/> <br/> You want to talk names or numbers, but when you blend them you get context and that is what your case is lacking.</t>
UCLA: 9/2 Utah W 31-10 9/9 Rice W 26-16 9/23 at Washington L 29-19 9/30 Stanford W 31-0 10/7 Arizona W 27-7 10/14 at Oregon L 30-20 10/21 at Notre Dame L 20-17 10/28 Washington St L 37-15 11/4 at California L 38-24 11/11 Oregon State W 25-7 11/18 at Arizona St W 24-12 12/2 USC Just what about UCLA's six wins impresses you so much Corey? Wait....I know....ND should have lost to them as well. All that does is tell me more about ND. Georgia beat Auburn like a drum at Auburn and ACC finalist Ga Tech....which by the way is probably ND's "greatest" win. You are the nonfactual generalist my friend....
what doesn't impress me <t>about UCLA is their coaching staff.<br/> <br/> I'd still say Penn State was a better win than UCLA. As for your Georgia team, we can play the 'who beat them and then who beat that team' game until we're blue in the face.<br/> <br/> I was using UCLA because they are a team that could beat just about any of the 'monsters' that you were citing on your schedule.<br/> <br/> And wait a sec, now you want 'style points? I thought you and Urban Cryer were all about forgetting the style points? Funny though, he was singing a different tune when he came in.</t>
"I'd still say Penn State was a better win than UCLA. As for your Georgia team, we can play the 'who beat them and then who beat that team' game until we're blue in the face." Uh...no... Anybody that ND beat have a better win than at Auburn by a gazillion points like Ga did? Since Ga was able to beat Ga Tech that win for ND in Atlanta is reduced to a cupcake win...right? FYI, one of the "losers" that Fla beat like a drum is playing for the conference USA title for the second year in a row. There is a reason that Florida's cumulative schedule by NCAA statistics is ranked #1.....The Florida foes WON 81 games. Not too hard to comprehend.
How much bullsh** can you pull from your arse?? Toughest schedule because Florida will have played against teams with a total of 81 wins??? Whereas USC and Michigan will have played against teams with a total of 75 and 77 wins, respectively? Let's have a look at this TRIPE! Michigan has played all TWELVE of their games. USC has played ELEVEN games, with ONE left, for a total of TWELVE games. FLORIDA, has played TWELVE games, currently sitting at 72 wins, less than either of the other two you argue have weaker schedules. NOW, you want to add in ANOTHER game to give you NINE more wins??? LMAO!!!! Even your own touted, selected statistic doesn't support your hysteria! But, I guess a 1-AA opponent is quite a bit tougher than anyone else in the country was able to schedule at the last minute. Hmmm...if EVERYONE else was scrambling to schedule their twelfth game, wouldn't that mean EVERYONE would have a slot open on their schedule? Hmmm...how many teams went out and scheduled a Junior High team, much less a "top flight" team begging for respect. Give me a break, find a better excuse for your lousy schedule. Sorry guys, I've been pretty much just lurking of late, but I couldn't let this crap slide. Cheers!
Pretty acerbic there Kesley.....what's eatin ya? Go with CBS Sportsline if you don't like what the NCAA themselves puts out. Or...crawl back in your hole...I could give a crap.
" FLORIDA, has played TWELVE games, currently sitting at 72 wins, less than either of the other two you argue have weaker schedules. NOW, you want to add in ANOTHER game to give you NINE more wins??? Dude...if you stopped today that would be right. HOWEVER>>> Florida DOES play 10-2 Arkansas and that's an inescapable fact. Why would you not add Arkansas to the equation? UF has to play em. If Michigan had to play Wisconsin on Sat. that would be part of Michigan's schedule. With regard to SC, the measly 6 wins of future opponent UCLA is already added in.
Another difference with M and OSU is that they've played every game against D1A teams. Among the losses of Fla. opponents are games againts Chowan Elon Wofford Liberty Appalachian St. and Furman. No wonder CBS Sports is so impressed.
Poor effort Gipper. BFD. That just goes to show you how very tough the rest of the UF schedule must be for CBS Sportsline to still rank UF's SOS #1 in spite of W. Carolina in the mix.