Paranoid and narcissistic or sees through the ********?

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Obviously Trump's American supporters believe only that he's a patriotic American doing what's best for America who tells only the truth.

    Alas... more and more of the world seems to see it as ABC Australia sees it:

    Chris Uhlmann reporting for Australia’s ABC on Donald Trump & the G20.

    What we already knew Barry, that the President of the United States has a particular skill set – that he’s identified an illness in Western Democracies, but he has no cure for it and seems intent on exploiting it.

    And we’ve also learned that he has no desire and no capacity to lead the world.

    The G20 became the G19 as it ended.

    On the Paris Climate Accords the US was left Isolated & friendless. But given that was always going to happen, a deft President would have found an issue around which he could rally most of the leaders. And he had the Perfect one – North Korea’s missile tests.

    So where was the G20 statement condemning North Korea which would have put pressure on China and Russia?

    Other leaders expected it. They were prepared to back it. But it never came.

    There’s a tendency among some hopeful souls to confuse the speeches written for Trump with the thoughts of the man himself.

    He did make some interesting scripted observations in Poland about defending the values of the West. And he’s in a unique position – he’s the one man who has the power to do something about it.

    But it’s the unscripted Trump that’s real :

    A man who barks out bile in 140 characters
    Who wastes his precious days as President at war with the West’s Institutions like the Judiciary, Independent Government agencies and the free press

    He was an uneasy, lonely, awkward figure at this gathering and you got the strong sense that some of the leaders are trying to find the best way to work around him.

    Donald Trump’s a man who craves power because it burnishes his celebrity. To be constantly talking and talked about is all that really matters.

    And there is no value placed on the meaning of words. So what is said one day can be discarded the next.

    So what did we learn?

    We’ve learned that Donald Trump has pressed fast forward on the decline of the United States as a Global Leader

    He managed to isolate his nation, to confuse and alienate his allies and to diminish America

    He will cede that power to China & Russia. Two Authoritarian States that will forge a very different set of rules for the 21st Century

    Some will cheer the decline of America, but I think we’ll miss it when it’s gone.

    And that’s the biggest threat to the values of the West which he claims to hold so dear.
     
  2. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Not to worry though for The Donald.... I expect him to take his one third and beat your two thirds in his re-election bid in 2020 because that's how he rolls:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-disapproval-rating-nears-60-percent-in-new-polls/
     
  3. RECcane

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    Excuse me if I fail to believe anything any expert says, much less when you add the emotion of oh yeah by the way I hate his guts but what I'm saying is logical and fact filled dear reader...Let's not stop there let's add the effects of Brexit to Britain as well, the sky is falling, oops I meant the economy oops that was wrong as well...

    Dave just wait until Generation Z gets involved, forecast to be the most conservative generation since WWII, guaranteed to throw the boomers out with the bath water...That's if it can be believed as some appointed expert appointed this idea...

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/the-worst-political-predictions-of-2016-214555

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/12/09/the-worst-2016-election-predictions-of-the-year/21616825/

    http://www.businessinsider.com/morgan-stanley-brexit-economic-forecasts-2017-1


    Gen Z:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/next-generation-americans-gen-z-may-be-most-conservative-wwii

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/07/the-post-millennial-generation-should-worry-democrats/
     
  4. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    I hope the next generation of conservatives is lot more savvy and knowledgeable than some of their older millenial conservative counterparts who admit they voted for Trump....but didn't really want to but had to because.... that Hillary was just so damn evil.... :wink:
     
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    LOL, let me announce I did vote Trump even though officially I'm not a boomer...As for Hillary I'm sure I missed the boat as a middle aged white man heterosexual rural farmer who is 100 miles from an urban area who favors nationalism over globalism.

    What in the world was I thinking, I'm sure her every thought was centered on my issues...

    But I do hope as you do that Gen Z is more savvy and knowledgeable than all it's predecessors, it would be refreshing...
     
  6. George Krebs

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    I am beginning to entertain the theory that Trump is purposefully playing into the hysteria with his social media hijinks and "fake news" mantra as a misdirection tactic. he has the press chasing its tail and Congress has been rendered 100% ineffective. While to chase down dark alleys, Trump is slashing regulations, establishing the groundwork for a new world order while the economy is strong, hiring robust and wasterful public assidstance payouts to illegals and cheaters is down as much as 85% in some states.

    The democrats and their 5th estate allies had better be very careful because as people notice their lives improving, they become more irrelevant than they already are.
     
  7. RECcane

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    This......
     
  8. Motorcity Gator

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    I hope the **** so.

    Maybe if the GOP Trump lovin owner of my company sees his own life improving it might just trickle a small raise down to me which I have not seen even one of since I began here in June 2009.

    Obama isn't the excuse anymore.
     
  9. RECcane

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    Dave I haven't had a raise in 15 years, welcome to feeding America...Think about me when you pick up that squash or tomato.

    My employees haven't received a raise in 8 years, the owner pays 100% of every employees health insurance. As I'm in charge of this as well as growing crops I can tell you the company pays an average of $1,800 per month per employee as we have a small crew.

    The owner is Italian so accustomed to govt insurance and his words not mine are I wouldn't put my dog through that catastrophe. If the employees agree I will always pay for their insurance. I can attest it's always a 10-15.% increase every year from our end as a company, I've seen it increase up to 25%..

    No Obama isn't to blame, neither is Bush or the current administration. This is the loop we are all living through, and it's both parties of I can't do anything it's the other parties fault..,

    Imagine trying to maintain a crew without giving a raise in 8 years kinda tough....Then imagine paying more to feed your family every week, that's what it would take to change my situation.

    Yeah it's tough and it doesn't matter what party is in charge .......
     
  10. Terry O'Keefe

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    I have to ask you Dave, what in your life is worse now that Trump is President..other than daily outrage over something that Trump says or does that offends you and that a democrat isn't in the WH?

    For me life goes on, the Oil Business in Houston has been down since before Trump was in office and I can't really even blame it on Obama, it's just business.
     
  11. Motorcity Gator

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    As life with Donald plods ahead it becomes more and more apparent that gettin rid of the Democrat in office didn't solve a damn thing.

    Hell I would consider getting a raise after 8 years to be a success for the Donald in my book.... but that mindset just isn't there with our owner.

    I just look at my salary times 7.5 more years till I'm 70 and say that's the nut I'm shootin for.... it will be a little over a half mil between now and then and over a million since I lost my job in the Detroit Depression.... and that sounds better than no raise for 15.5 years.

    Hopefully I can make even that modest nut.
    That's pretty incredible Ralph..... congrats to you! Impressive....seriously.

    My company charges $1300.00 monthly in premiums to employees with families and the co-pay and deductibles are high.

    Even my RN wife's company whose insurance we use charges us about $565.00 per month in premium.
     
  12. RECcane

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    It should be embarrassing Dave, as men who work hard to take care of their babies and families....

    I don't know what to say I can piss off both sides with just a little effort as I've come to believe they are one and the same.

    What does one do when who ever is in charge is not much of a difference.

    At the end of the day my devotion is to my employees who have become family to me. Yeah I'll show my weakness and admit I love each and every one. I want them to improve beyond anything I have ever experienced
     
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    I'm a little late posting on this topic because I was cruising the Med. and I'm not skilled enough to cut and paste with my Ipad. There was a very interesting piece in USA today discussing the difference in world affairs as practiced by Tr While he loves to command a room, he prefers to work one-on-one as opposed to groups.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/09/g-20-minus-1-how-trump-changed-nature-american-leadership-global-summit/462743001/

    This apparently is the foreign press' vision of how the US should be a world "leader."
    Besides being the host country for the UN, which includes expensive security costs, the US pays about 25% of the operating and peace keeping budgets.
    Europe has hidden behind the US nuclear skirts for decades. Of the 28 members of NATO the US and only 4 other countries spend the minimum agreed upon 2% of their total budgets on defense. For example the US spends nearly twice as much as France on defense.
    According to the Paris Accords, the US is supposed to give 3 billion dollars to poorer countries to "help' them make adjustments for climate change. Once again the US taxpayer is the top sucker to the agreement.

    So to me this Australian writers opinions are like those of the Lilliputians who took glee in tying Gulliver down and they're pissed that he's getting up.