Wait just one minute. There's a documentary called 'War Room' that followed the initial campaign. If you don't want to watch it, I don't give a ****. However, what I do want you to watch is the last 15 minutes of it. The documentary was made by someone who was very much pro-Clinton. The last 15 minutes that shows the real George Stephanopoulos, is chilling and will tell you all you really want to know about 'who was out to get who.' The DNC was prepared to tar and feather any woman who came out against Clinton and they were prepared to destroy any member of the media who got out of line. These aren't my words, or even interpretations. They are clear there for all to see. Cute little Georgy Step in his own words. I would highly, highly, highly recommend that you watch it from start to finish. You will see the real brains behind the election of Clinton was James Carville. The muscle behind electing Clinton was Stephanopoulos. But make no mistake, the old boy club muscled up and intimidated real victims who came out at the time and beforehand, not 25 years later. I don't deny for a second the patriarchal attitude of some women have it coming and 'she deserved it.' At the same time, if you don't think that Bill Clinton wasn't a thousand times worse than Donald Trump (and mind you, I don't like Trump), than you are ill informed and ignorant of the facts.
The question I would have Corey is were these women coming forward on their own because they had felt personally violated or were they perhaps.... being coached... being sought out and maybe even being paid? Could any threats of retaliation have been directed at those politically motivated coaches? http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/who-paid-for-bill-clintons-accusers-to-travel-to-the-debate-229510 The entire "get Clinton" campaign in the 90s had much more to do about political dirty politics than it did any sense of achieving moral justice for any real or perceived injustices carried out by Clinton. The whole thing was a politically tainted circus.
It was never about a BJ. It was about lying under federal oath. It cost him his law license. It got him impeached. Fortunately for him he was able to move on to a much more lucrative avocation: money laundering.
We have all been round and round about this before.... no sense in jumping back on the wheel now. It was a chess game.... a dirty political game of gotch ya brought forth by right wing conservatives.... and not one of those in particular with any sense of a higher moral ground or sensitivity to women's rights. That was the real ********.
Here is an article by the Red State... admitting the move to pay Clinton's "accusers" to be at the Oct. 10th debate was "dirty" and also it highlights some of the ******** slung out there that is widely believed by the rightwingers that these were women that Clinton sexually assaulted although there were no trials proving guilt.... and no admissions of guilt by Clinton. And yet when the crazily conservative readers of this tripe read the article they come away with a guilty as charged notion because the article says it was so. In Trump's case the asshole said it himself... in a boastful way how he assaults women at his leisure because of his stardom. I'll take him for his word on it.
Clinton lied in a deposition in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. To try to establish a habit or pattern of him hitting on subordinates he was asked about having sex with Monica. He denied it. She had a blue dress with his DNA on it. He could have avoided the dep and perjury if he agreed to settle the suit early but he and his brilliant legal mind of a wife thought that the could do what they always do lie their way out. It wasn't the right, conservatives or anyone else but those 2 pathological liars who were responsible for his problems. Once again the left rewrites history. :roll:
Yeah the GOP was pretty damned good at the gotchya game..... With what should have been a private issue for the Clintons to sort out becoming the witch hunters main avenue to achieve what they wanted. But hey.... Trump's election survival was only possible because he... like you... was very adept at completely ignoring what jerkwad things he was saying by turning it around on the other guy. Forget I'm an asshole.... What about what happened in the 90s yada yada yada
First the liberals passed laws to protect women in the workplace from sexual harassment. Then the governor of Ark., Clinton exposes himself to a state employee and requests sexual favors. He gets sued for breaking the law and as usual with the left it's the GOP"s fault. And of course in your mind it's a "private issue." It's not and lying about it and obstructing justice in that case parallels the same charges against Nixon for Watergate. But if your ox is gored it's a "private matter" Revisionist history ********.
Gip nailed it. What gain? There were rumors and women going back to when he was the Governor of Arkansas. If you remember, when the election started, Clinton stood a snowballs chance in hell of winning the thing. I can't emphasize this to you enough. Watch War Room. You will see it all for yourself.
Over the many years since Bill Clinton was under fire from Paula Jones and the GOP puppeteers behind her I have long debated the GOP vendetta strategy vs. the accusations being true or not true, etc. and we really have crossed no new bridges except that the 4 women were paid by the Trump campaign to be stageside during the Oct. 10th debate and that just smacks of same ol same ol dirty politics. Clinton could have been Jack the Ripper but how does that in the least change how Trump himself views... treats... and talks about women? He is what he is... and 4 women at the front of the debate stage paid by Trump and the GOP ro be there can't change that..
Hillary fired first with the porky beauty queen claiming Trump was mean to women. Clinton sent a broadside back with Bill's victims. You throw a turd and get buried by a pile of **** and now you complain? So fuckin typical. Waaaa!
None of that means anything with respect to the character of the President elect. Maybe he is just woefully misunderstood and misspoken. I doubt it.
After Bill was through with Monica he'd jack off in the Oval Office bathroom sink. Trump would have to sink a lot lower to be as deviant as that asshole was.
Wow Gipper.... The White House maid must have written a tell all true story about her days with Bill and somehow I missed it.... LOL
It was in the Starr report. You probably never heard about Monica and the cigar either. I'm sure facts like those never made the "news" you read.
News that is not fake has credible sources to factualize it. So in the Starr report did Clinton makes these comments about his behavior to Billy Bush during a recorded interview or something? Is it fact because Monica told Linda Tripp and so it must be so?
Some interesting background on the "independent" prosecutor Ken Starr: 4. Before his appointment, Starr wrote a friend-of-the-court brief about Paula Jones for the Supreme Court. 5. Starr wrote a friend-of-the-court brief on behalf of the Republican National Committee for Bush attorney general Richard Thornborough. 6. Starr maintained his million-dollar-a-year private law practice while working as independent counsel. 7. Starr represented Big Tobacco while working as independent counsel; Bill Clinton is Big Tobacco's number one enemy. 8. Starr's law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, was being sued by the Resolution Trust Corporation while Starr investigated the RTC. 9. Starr represented International Paper, which had sold land to the Whitewater Development Company. 10. Starr sits on the board of the conservative Washington Legal Foundation, funded by Big Tobacco. 11. Starr sought out a book deal with Newt Gingrich's agent, Lunn Chu. 12. Starr has ties to right-wingers James Moody and George Conway, the Jones/Tripp lawyers. 13. Starr was forced by Associate Attorney General Webb Hubbell to stop representing Bell Atlantic; later, Starr got even by prosecuting Hubbell into oblivion. Illegalities and ethical lapses in the investigation: 14. Starr leaks like a sieve, contrary to the law preventing him from disclosing information to the press. 15. Starr contributed to a New York Times Magazine article to promote his investigation. 16. Starr wired Linda Tripp before asking for authority to pursue those allegations. 17. Starr pressured Lewinsky to wear a wire before asking for authority to pursue further allegations. 18. Starr's only key Whitewater witness, David Hale, is reported to have been paid by Richard Mellon Scaife, who is funding the Clinton scandals. 19. Starr's only key Whitewater witness, David Hale, is a proven liar. 20. Starr's own investigation gave David Hale more than $60,000 for living expenses. 21. Starr's Whitewater state trooper witnesses were paid by Jerry Falwell. 22. Someone at Starr's private law firm, Kirkland & Ellis, faxed an affidavit from the Jones case to the Chicago Tribune before it was filed in court. 23. Starr's star "witness," Linda Tripp, worked simultaneously with Starr's and Jones's lawyers. 24. Starr had gained detailed knowledge of Monica Lewinsky's sealed deposition in the Jones suit within hours of its completion. 25. Starr appears to have set a "perjury trap" for Clinton. 26. Apparently for political reasons, Starr withheld his report clearing Clinton on Vince Foster's suicide until after the 1996 elections. 27. Apparently for political reasons, Starr withheld his exoneration of Clinton on Travelgate, Filegate and Whitewater until after the 1998 elections. 28. Apparently for political reasons, the Starr Report, complete with pornographic details, was released to Congress and the public just a month before the 1998 elections.
Poor Bill Clinton, all those lying women just out for publicity and then there was the vast right wing conspiracy.
I've always said he should have been more discretionary and careful with his indiscretions. He wasn't very smart about it and it played right into the slimeball's hands who were out to take him down. All in all a very low point for both sides of the aisle and an international embarassment for the U.S. shared by all parties.
Anyone stumbling on your posts for the first time would think you are joking; having fun at everyone's expense. I'm still not sure that is not the case and I have been laughing at these posts for years..