Re Johnson. I can only speak for my situation here in Alabama. I voted for Johnson, my wife voted for Johnson and about 2 dozen other people I know voted for Johnson. I can assure you that if all of us had a 'gun to the head' choice between Trump and Hillary, we would have chosen Trump. Just because they didn't vote for Hillary doesn't mean that it's her 'lost vote' and it drives me nuts that the Democrats try to lay claim to those votes. Libertarians and Constitutionalists are far more likely to vote Republican than they are Democrat. The only lost votes that I think they could lay any claim to are the Green Party votes.
No surprise there Terry. I already noted in other topics how well programmed my kids are by the media ( mainstream and social). They were all quoting the Dem company line and you have no hope of upsetting their opinion with silly things like facts or laws...
And then there are the young disgruntled Sanders supporters who were miffed at Clinton for knocking out their guy and so they just stayed home. I think that could be what really hurt her in such extremely tight finishes. And.... here in Florida the early voting was just getting revved up when the FBI's Comer came out with his questionable statements about the newly discovered Weiner emails and only after half of Florida's total ballots had been cast did he come forth with what amounted to a retraction. In a state outcome decided by only 130,000 votes that could very well have done the Trick for Trump.
Comey: Those conclusions: ONE: This conclusion refers back to the first reason for the investigation, which reads almost word-for-word, replacing "grossly negligent" with "extremely careless". Note that there are two parts to the felony, either "intentionally" which is treason, or "in a grossly negligent way" which is a felony under 18 U.S.C. section 793(f) and does not require intent. The second is a misdemeanor which the conclusions also support was likely broken. TWO: THREE: FOUR: FIVE: SIX: There was no retraction. The conclusions the FBI came to months earlier, including the evidence that Hillary had, in fact, likely committed both a felony and misdemeanor (#1) and that it was probably not prosecutable (#6), was where they fell back to.
Trump got.... 1.427 million fewer than Romney. Yet he outperformed Romney among every minority group. 0.427 million fewer than McCain. 2.316 million fewer than Bush (2004). So that's not the story. Clinton's terrible campaign is the story. Again. She received 6.175 million fewer votes than Obama in 2012. She received 9.758 million fewer votes than Obama in 2008. She received only 0.845 million more votes than Kerry in 2004. Kerry. 12 years ago. With 3.7 million more Latinos participating. With 2.5 million more African-Americans participating. She added less than a million votes to her total.
I crack one joke and I'm gloating? I haven't had one word to say to or about MCG in a year and I'm gloating... Amazing.
Terry, I heard that, at least in Paul Ryan's view, there were some coattail effects from the Donald's win. He and Walker certainly feel that in Wisconsin (where they did a blitzkrieg tour near the end to encourage election of Republican House members and Trump) that Trump helped pull some Wisconsin R's to wins...and he also brought up the fact that the losses in the House and Senate overall were just a flesh wound compared to what was expected...and he attributed that to a coattail effect. Tom...don't be testy.
It's cool Tom.... no offense taken. I hope this works out for the sake of our country. I think he will have to reign in all the rhetoric and bluster to be effective and make the other half of the country at least tolerate him so we will see how he does going forward.
Dave, You make a good point. I think he can point toward this decisive victory, and even the ongoing protests to his win, as evidence to the establishment that they need to change their ways.
So Obama and Trump met for a much longer time than anticipated and both came out praising the other. I think that means that Trump agreed to let Obama play for free on all his golf courses world wide, and Obama agreed to give him strokes when they play!
So some Dems I know are saying it's a travesty that Hillary won the popular vote but the Republicans got the Presidency. They want to do away with the EC. But what if you look at this map, which shows the county by county results across the Nation. Whoa...a whole lot of the Nation wanted Trump and a small but populous sections wanted Hillary. hmmp. Also I heard 2 "professors" discuss this on Fox tonight. One for direct election and one for the EC. But both agreed that if direct election had been the game, the campaigns would have been run completely different. So much so that you can't assume that Hillary would have won with those rules.
The electoral college provides balanced representation throughout the country. I'm pretty sure that in past presidential elections, whoever was the losing side in a close election had the same complaint.
Those blue blocks in NE are lancaster and douglas counties....Lincoln and Omaha. The 2 most populated areas in the state.
That's precisely why the Electoral College exists. Without it, the population centers on the east and west coasts and other major metropolitan areas (and Nebraska ) potentially would control the outcome of the elections, essentially making a mockery of the democratic process. The EC levels the playing field. Personally, while I abhorred the choices, I'm deeply disappointed in Trump's win, but he now is my president (elect). I support him and I wish him success.
The map is classic rural vs. urban dichotomy. Add in a great percentage of higher education communities going for Hillary such as Gainesville, Ann Arbor, Chapel Hill and many more. The divide in this country right now is deeply rooted in those same boundaries of city plus highly educated vs. rural. Obviously the great majority of land space in the U.S. is of a rural description and possibly that in itself slants the EC toward the red more than it should.
Maybe you should change that to "Over-educated". There are plenty of us who have degrees from excellent institutions that choose to live outside the urban group think centers. :roll:
Let's be honest with the tone of this and what we have been hearing from the very biased media and let's not forget the oh so important celebrities. WE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU....Rural equals dumb individuals with no education... Anything outside of the urban hemisphere needs guidance from our enlightenment as they are not capable of higher thought... This is exactly the smug thought process the liberal party took with them into the election, let's show one more Beyoncé approved gathering. Maybe NPR news can mention one more time in the hour how it's the educated vs rural during the election. The problem is they totally left out a large portion of the country that may be smart enough to fill out a ballot. They may have remembered that I have absolutely nothing in common with what they are offering and I'm a little slow here but I think they may not respect me at the end of the day, oh there it is Trump/Pence.. But then again I am a straight, white male who lives in a rural area, what do I know...
Certainly there are exceptions... glaring ones at that :wink: But seriously.... when you look around Ralph at the town meeting are you more the rule or the exception?