I have to laugh once again at my Miami boards where a large percentage of adults are caught up with the decisions 17-18 year olds are making for their college career. I can get excited as well for a great player ( Or one that is supposedly great) coming to my team but I refuse to lose sleep over it. The entire process is based on how many stars they have accrued as we all know. And that is based on large part to summer camp attendance and other criteria that some outstanding athletes were not part of. Unless the coaching staff of my team is sharing notes with me I have no idea of their goals and targeted players. More than anything the arguing among themselves of who will stay or go meanwhile challenging the character of the kids is at times pretty terrible....
Yeah it's a big time for this, NSD just a couple of weeks away. I do follow it fairly closely. While every year there really good teams that aren't loaded with highly rated players, I would rather be more like Ohio State or Alabama who are usually loaded with hose types of players. Guys take NSD off so they can keep up with the faxes, and live and die with every kid's decision ... I'm close but not quite that bad. :?
Well since I started a recruiting thread about crazy fans such as myself wondering where the best players will go to here is a link of the top HS's for producing D-1 talent since 2000 http://247sports.com/Sport/Football/AllTimeHighSchoolTeamTalentComposite
Very interesting list, most of those schools are well known to anybody who follows recruiting. Always amazes me how many of those top schools are private/parochial schools.
Interesting list. A number of those schools are right in Miami's backyard. This time of year Gator recruiting boards go into complete meltdown. We have a large class, 26 at this point, half of which are already in school as early entries. The stars average is a little lower than some of our competitors. Thus we have very vocal, keyboard vocal, that are in full meltdown and sometimes it makes the board almost unreadable.
Bill, you could be talking about most D-1 programs' fans, including ours. Not all of course, just the very vocal ones with too much time on their hands. :roll:
We have so many players headed for the NFL Draft that is is a bit unnerving, especially with nine members of the Junior Class. Now there is a rumor that our mascot, Brutus Buckeye is contemplating to do likewise! :wink:
I see that IMG is way up the list, I agree with kp that for some schools who can recruit openly for players the standards are different than my small town high school...
So here's a good story developing!! Alabama commit visits Miss State and flips his commit to them, tweets about it, smiling picture with Dan Mullen, etc then later after thinking about it he says it's all news to him he's solid to Alabama. Ah yes getting testy around the schools now... Feb 1 can't get here quick enough for these coaches. Flip or Not Flip
In California, the public schools can openly recruit. You wind up with more than a few guys playing for 3 or 4 high schools in their career. Times have changed since I played, but we were always accused of recruiting and it just wasn't true. People didn't want their kids to go to public school. I went to a Catholic school that had more Jews, Buddhists and Muslims than you'd think. The answer to Catholic schools raising the bar academically (99% placement list in 4 year colleges over a 50 year period) is to just open the borders for athletic purposes purely... they still don't get it. But now the public schools can recruit, some of the other Catholic schools have been going at it hardcore.
I know that recruiting at Private/Parochial schools is an issue with the public leagues. I don't know too much about it, but here in Texas the only 2 schools who play in the public leagues are Dallas Jesuit (Jordan Spieths Alma Mater) and Strake Jesuit here in Houston. They put in some pretty strick rules and also made them play in the highest division of the Public League which of course is determined by attendance. Strake has 900+ boys and they have to play in a division where the min enrollment is 2500 kids. Even doubling the Strake enrollment wouldn't put them in that class, but that was the deal. They do have attendance zones and any player outside the attendance zone I think has to delay playing for a year. I don't know the rules for the Private leagues regarding recruiting, but since they don't have attendance zones I assume they can do some recruiting. Maybe even offer financial assistance for tuition for the minority kids. JO'Co and Corey have always been the go to guys on private schools esp in So.Cal. Gipper probably knows a lot about the rule regarding private schools in Michigan.
The one thing that has always amazed me here in Florida is the tier system of school enrollment and how it plays out in sports. You can go from a 1A school with a small enrollment to 8A with a very large. The scheduling does a pretty good job at placing teams with the same enrollment against each other but there are always teams with 26 players dressed to play a football game going against teams with 106 players dressed to play during the year. When I lived in Ft. Myers Bishop Verot a private Catholic high school was the power house who dominated year in and year out with players from far outside the district. What continues to amaze me is schools like Miami Central and how they place kids into Div 1 schools, this is an area where me as a white man can guarantee being assaulted if I was to walk around the school one time. The talent in the area is amazing. Where in contrast St. Thomas Aquinas in Ft. Lauderdale recruits players nation wide such as Michael Irvins son from Dallas and others....It in its own way is an early precept to IMG...
Just looked at Rivals Top 25 schools... Ohio State is now #1: Interesting that of their 21 verbals only 8 of those kids are from Ohio. Michigan is now #7: Of their 22 verbals only 1 is from Michigan. Alabama is now #11: of their 17 verbals only 5 are from Alabama UCLA is now #13: of their 22 verbals only 4 are not from Calif. Fla is now #5: of their 26 verbals only 11 are not from Fla. Gotta get players where you find them!
One has to recruit nationally now if you are to be successful! In state talent is great in Florida, Texas and California.
Recruiting can be tough at times, as a coach that comes in an inherits kids who committed long ago what do you do when your needs don't include them. Hate to see stuff like this but I can't blame the new coaching staff, maybe the communications could have been better...? http://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2016/01/20/erik-swenson-michigan-football/79063212/
Alabama will close with more than 5 players from Alabama. The top LB in the country is down to Bama, Georgia and ND.
I've seen that story on the kid who had his offer pulled by Harbaugh. He's going to be OK as Northwestern is happy to have him. His story is of course a big deal because it is Mich and it is Harbaugh and he has always wanted to play for UM, that was his dream and he thought he it was going to happen. But on the flip side every year there will be kids who have told School X they are coming and then on NSD decide they will go some place else and leave School X hanging in the breeze. If kids flip early in the game the school has time to adjust and fill the slot. The later they wait the more harm they do to the school that had been counting on them. What really grinds me is the ones that do it to get some publicity and there have been a few of those over the years, they like to "shock" the world with their choice and get everybody talking about them. LOOK AT ME!!! FWIW: This verbal/Flip is pretty common these days, most programs continue to recruit kids who have given a verbal commitment to another school. The Irish are currently working on several kid who are verbals to another program, and every year we pick up a couple along with losing some as well. Ohio State just got Dwayne Haskins to flip from Maryland, he was the crown jewel of the Maryland class and one of the top QB's in this years class. Texas has lost some kids already this year and hope to pick up some flips to fill in slots.