SQUIDS!!!!! Those Helmets were friggin cool....... And you know Master Chief.....at least 30% of this graduating class will decide to go to the "Men's Department" of the Department of the Navy......
:shock: I always root for Navy, but that really was a fantastic effort by an undermanned Army team... I think that was the last game for Navy's coach too. They're holding the BYU job open for him out here...
It's hard to imagine BYU as a triple option team given their history of great QB's throwing...Giff Nielsen, Marc Wilson, Jim McMahon, Ty Detmer, etc and it's also hard to imagine Ken N changing his offense. Paul Johnson did not change his offense when he left Navy, and Ken learned from Paul and has been running the triple option for something like 18 years But he is Mormon.
3-point stance article: http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/122696/3-point-stance-was-it-that-no-one-out-east-saw-christian-mccaffrey The first point talks about the Heismann. The second point talks about Navy's 14 game streak and how that's unusual in rivalry games. I just wanted to point out that Oregon's current win streak over uw stands at 12. Just so people know. :twisted:
Terry Baker Mike Garrett Gary Beban OJ Simpson Jim Plunkett Charles White Marcus Allen Ty Detmer Carson Palmer Matt Leinart Reggie Bush Marcus Mariota Being on the west coast didn't seem to hurt them????
So Stanford whines that it had 7 games that started at 10 pm eastern time. Here's a suggestion, play some more football games in the afternoon instead of playing more than half your games at night.
I get tired of the whining when they don't win. Everything is fine if they win the Heisman, but if they don't it can't be that someone else got the better of them, it must be some kind of conspiracy. Get over it! 8)
Kp, take usc out of that list and it looks pretty sparse. The feeling out here is, unless you play for usc, you not only have to be the most outstanding, but you have to be unquestionably so to get the nod. Regardless, i really was taking the opportunity to troll the purple sled dogs in regards to that article. In the long, storied history of the rivalry with uw, wazzu has never lost that many in a row, and the cougars have gone long stretches fielding an embarrassing team. I wanted to let people know that perhaps the huskies should not even consider the ducks a rival at this point. :twisted:
So Kesley, Derek Henry is only collateral damage? If you have a beef with the USC folks then take it up with them. Derek Henry won the Heisman. The only section of the country that disagreed was the West Coast voters. Every other section of the country voted for Henry. It sounds to me like a bunch of homers whining because they finished second. There is a long list of winners from the west coast, so regional bias was apparently not a factor then. Like I said before, being on the west coast only seems to be a drawback when someone from the west coast loses...not when they win. 8)
Jus to pile on...Derek Henry's dad did not play in the NFL, his mom was not a famous college athlete. He is just a poor kid from rural Florida that got a chance to play football and get an education because of it. He waited his turn and stuck with it even when he was riding the bench. When he got his chance, he outrushed some of the greatest running backs in NCAA history. Voters from every region of the country, except the west, thought he was deserving of the Heisman award. I wonder what MacCaffery would think of this whining? :x
Gees kp, sensitive much? :? I will say it again, i was referring my response to the second point of maisel's article. I tried to leave the heisman talk in your topic and troll uw in this one in comparison to the navy streak. I'm guessing the two conversations we're trying to have are ships passing in the night... (see how that ties back in? :wink: )
Kes, I understand your bias toward your conference brother. He's a great athlete and very well may win the Heisman before he's done, but speaking as an unbiased observer, Henry outshone him in what Henry does. Your kid does several things very well, which piles up all-purpose yardage. He's a similar player to Tim Brown, who won the Heisman as an all-purpose player. Perhaps the voters felt that he plays 8-9 games in a conference where defense is almost non-existent, a conference which enables him to have longer kickoff and punt returns, longer rushes from scrimmage, etc.. Would he have those stats in the Big10 or SEC? Maybe, maybe not. As I and others have said in this topic, any one of the three would have been a good choice. While I've had my issues in the past with the Heisman voters, the fact is, Henry carried the vote in every region of the country except for the west coast. One can speculate that the majority of voters believed that Henry would have had the same level of success no matter where he played, while McCaffrey, albeit a very talented kid, was aided by poor defenses in most of his games. I don't know the answer, but coming in second in the voting as an underclassman is not exactly a disappointment. P.S. You don't fool us old guys with your claim about Wazzu vs. UW. We know the point you're trying to make by including the first part of the article. We've been around the block a few times. :wink: