Another Lawsuit over paying players...

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    This time filed by an never before heard of womens soccer player.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2014/10/23/ncaa-class-action-lawsuit-obannon-case/17790847/
     
  2. WSU1996kesley

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    I wonder how much people would pay to watch these women play soccer? I'm guessing less than the price of their scholarship. Shut up and take your free education.
     
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    Couldn't have said it better Kes.
     
  4. IrishCorey

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    What happens if the power conferences break free of the NCAA in football?

    I ask this because that immediately removes the cash cow that is football from the Title IX equation. Universities would immediately begin cutting programs and we'd still have a 50-50 balance, but I'd bet half of women's sports would go bye bye.
     
  5. George Krebs

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    I was at the Jets game on Sunday. First thing I noticed were no ticket scalpers in the ususual spots. One inside, I noticed immediately no lines at concession stands. My guesstimate was 5-10,000 empty seats scattered throughout.

    Maybe it's just the Jets but this tells me that people have reached the saturation point on sports related expenses.

    In times like these the idea of paying $125.00 for a ticket, $35.00 to park your car, $10.00 for a beer or $5.00 for a cookie or a pretzel that fits in the palm of your hand offends the sensibilities of a lot of folks. Add to that formula a bunch of whiny athletes that are always trying to sell you on how tough they have it and you have a formula for disaster as an entertainment alternative.

    Big time college sports better tread very carefully. They over estimate their self-importance at their own peril.
     
  6. Terry O'Keefe

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    Nothing removes Title IX. Certainly not the Power 5 going their own way in football. But I can certainly see a bleak future for minor sports, but they will have to keep enough womens sports to balance against football/basketball on the men's side.
     
  7. IrishCorey

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    think slightly outside the box. If they remove football entirely from the NCAA, it is no longer subject to the rules or restrictions. It is no longer a part of your amateur athletics department.

    I think if they move to pay players, it will be the first major to change to happen afterward. If you make the players employees of the university/college, and make football something different than the rest of athletics, you can't use football in the Title IX formula because there's no female equivalent to the sport.
     
  8. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I don't think there is any way you can get around Title IX.
     
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    In a nutshell, Title IX requires the SCHOOL (not the NCAA) to provide equal scholarship opportunity to ladies as well male students. The only way to do away with the scholies that ladies get because of football is to abolish football.
     
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    I think Corey is going along the lines of the football boys are no longer getting scholarships.

    They will be paid employees. If you make them pay their tuition like all the regular students, Title IX doesn't really apply anymore....
     
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    That's a great idea for universities fighting the attempts to unionize the players.
     
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    gip,

    I'm with ya... just saying how it could go down if they decide to really pay them.

    Still can't figure out how a $65K education (state school prices) isn't enough?
     
  13. IrishCorey

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    I know precisely what Title IX is and how it works. Scott nailed it.

    I'm not saying this is a good idea. I'm not saying this is something I support. What I am saying is that I've listened to many long time coaches AND ATHLETIC DIRECTORS who think Title IX is what's killing college athletics and who also believe that this may be the way around it.
     
  14. Terry O'Keefe

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    A former Texas football player has filed a 50M dollar lawsuit against the NCAA over head injuries.

    The interesting side note to this is that the player, Julius Whittier, was the firts black player ever to be on football scholarship at Texas. Also his lawyer is a former Texas player as well.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/former-texas-player-files--50-million-lawsuit-against-ncaa-174053907.html
     
  15. George Krebs

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    If you pay players, can you therefore fire ( cut ) them for poor performance ?
     
  16. Tennessee Tom

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    Absolutely George. These kids don't know how good they have it.
     
  17. IrishCorey

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    George/Tom,

    Yup. Again, I'm not endorsing or condoning this course. I've just been warning against it.. and don't be fooled, a good many of those ADs would not mind breaking free of the NCAA and creating their own pro college football thing. There are many factors that play into this, and it's what I've warned people about for years. The people who just refuse to listen are the women's sports, Title IX folks. They have taken a disingenuous approach to their history, and the cost of that history. They shed not one tear for destroyed lives and careers because 'hey, the rules are the rules.'

    Never underestimate the old boy network, and don't cry when they change the rules on you if you continually come back at them like a free ATM.