I think you're extrapolating something that's not there.. I think, and we've been this way for some time, we chose to not suspend players who are arrested for very serious crimes. Crimes against women seem to be given much lighter regard than others, until you mention that and everyone gets pigeon chested. I know it sucks. I know the kid may well be innocent. At the same time, if you've read up on the Famous Jameis files.. that guy may well have gotten away with a rape or sexual assault while being aided by both the university and the police department. Sadly, we now see the pendulum swinging back to the other extreme. I understand the argument that we're hurting an innocent kid who is falsely accused. At the same time, if he's such a great kid and is 100% innocent, then don't you think taking the time to clear up a charge as serious as this would be a lot more important than college football?
Before you go painting Florida and Urban as these over zealous defenders of justice, let us re-visit the case of another Gator.. Aaron Hernandez http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...dezs-nfl-entry-what-did-scouts-know-back-then So let's not act like Florida booted everyone out based on a hunch. Also, Cam got his day. Your continued revision of Florida history is mind boggling. Additionally,
And since you brought up that Gator team and you hinted that Cam was the only problem child. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/07/s...lorida-in-the-meyer-years.html?pagewanted=all BTW, the more I learn about the Meyers, the less I like them. I am sure they couldn't care less.. but they strike me as ******** artists (sorry Buckeyes). Back on point.. 41 of 121... one third of your team dude..
I agree with that, however a lot of times there is no assumption of innocence, in fact there is a presumption of guilt. :?
The Florida player is just another in a long line of accusations. My whole point is maybe he is guilty and maybe not. That's all. Maybe not. At least we should consider...maybe not guilty. Hey Todd Gurley was not guilty. He was cleared quickly. All of us need to be honest with ourselves..what did you think when you first read about his problem the other day? t
There is not a program represented on this BB that has not had its share of off the field controversy. I'm amazed at the ND academic investigation. In my opinion the university is almost compelled to find these players guilty at this point simply becuase of the length of the process. What does the school do now? Well, we spent two months checking into these young men and find that they did nothing wrong. Sorry. That's five games not to mention their reputations. If they do that I can see civil suits coming from some if not all of them.
The reality now is the media and the public have become outraged at the actions of players, esp players who do violence to women. So the situation now is that if there is an accusation, the player is going to sit while the investigation. The SF 49ner owner tried to buck that trend with his LB McDonald. He was crucified in the press. McDonald claimed of course that when the truth came out he would be exhonerated, his owner wanted to back him. But the press forced him to back down. Right now if the Gators tried to play this kid who has been accused of violence, esp sexual violence against a woman they would also be cruicified in the press. It's changed rapidly.
Things getting a bit testy in Gainesville? http://florida.247sports.com/Board/14/Contents/Florida-quarterback-five-star-freshman-involved-in-fight-31832724
I would say that in today's world but with regards to sexual assault on women it's sort of always been that way. If a woman accuses a man of a sex crime the man's name has always been fair game, the woman's name has always been protected. There are lot's of reasons why of course, some of them old fashioned and some of the not...but bottom line the guy accused is always known and even if he clears his name he'll always be remembered as the guy who was accused, some will remember that he was cleared some won't and some won't care he was accused so he must have done something wrong. It's just that since some high profile incidents starting esp with Ray Rice, there is media and fan pressure, esp media that these guys have to be suspended till they prove themselves innocent.
Doubt if this story makes Gator fans feel any better...but an interesting read and yet another indication of how things have rapidly changed in the handling of these cases. Although to tell you the truth it appears Winston's case was handled to help FSU football win. While Gators didn't think about football victories just doing what is right. http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/10/06/treon_harris_suspended_university_of_florida_punishes_gators_quarterback.html
I have been gone for three days to another Senior Games event for Corn Hole and Bocce Ball. Didn't do well in either but that's a whole other story. I didn't take my computer but did have the iPhone (6 plus +). I am still not as comfortable posting on the net with the phone and was pretty busy. Anyhow, I am sick about this whole thing with Harris. Yes because I want to see him play but when I think about the whole thing more so because this has the potential to affect both young peoples lives in a negative way. If he is guilty of rape he needs to go no question. But as fanatical as a lot of football fans are as soon as someone discovers who the young lady is her life could be made so miserable that UF might not be a fun place for her. I pray for both these young people that whatever happened they are able to move on in their life in a positive productive manner. Muschamp does seem snake bit but I continue to like the guy and hope he wins and stays our coach..
Corn Hole and Bocce Ball? Did you see AJ there, those sound like they'd be right up his alley!! I agree with your comments on Harris. There was an incident at Missouri with Dorial Green-Beckham, nothing sexual but assualt never the less. The young lady refused to press charges and stated that she didn't want to become a pariah at Missouri for taking out a prominent football player. In the end since his name was out there with regards to the assualt (he pushed her down some stairs trying to get at an ex-girlfriend) Missouri cut him loose and he's at OU now. I'm not clear if Harris is suspected of rape, sexual assault could mean that I guess but it could also mean unwanted touching. There was a Miami Dolphins player arrested last week for just that, he was drunk at a club and grabbing or touching breasts and asses of girls in the clubl. Still sexual assault, he also fought with the police when they tried to arrest him. I think a few years ago the dolphins would have played him while his case went through the system (innnocent till proven guilty)..but they cut him loose in todays climate. Actions have consequences.
I once had a neighbor who had a beautifully manicured bocce ball court in his yard. We had fun playing the game. He started a league, and for a while we had several guys involved.
Came across the posted comment below on Gatorsports and thought I would re-post it here as it accurately reflects my thoughts on Keith Hernandez: " love how everyone always includes Hernandez in UF's trouble. Sure after he killed someone in New England there were rumblings he could have been tied to a shooting in Gainesville, but as far as I know nothing ever surfaced on that. Can we always remind everyone that Rae Carruth played at Colorado, and OJ simpson played at USC" Corey's implication seems to be that Meyer knew Hernandez was a street psycho killer and Urban just turned his head the other way. You would have to be inside Meyer's head to know that.... :roll:
you might wanna read up on your own Gators, Dave. Read those articles that I posted. Everyone knew he was trouble. He was always smart enough to stay just ahead of the hammer. They roomed him with Tebow on the road to try to keep him clean. They knew they had to baby sit that kid. Anyway, read up. He was far from clean at Florida.
Being troubled and being a psycho killer is light years apart don't you agree. Most coaches.... Meyer included of course.... try to give troubled kids a chance... try to help them. You really think Meyer and his staff would have given a rumored murderer a second chance?