Did anyone see the video of the bench clearing brawl between Miami and FL International? A trip down memory lane for the Caines. What a bunch of thugs. This should seal Larry Coker's fate.
Yeah, there needs to be some suspensions. While the 'Canes didn't start it once it was going they got into full thug mode, with Cane players stomping and kicking guys who are down on the ground. I didn't see it but some people are reporting that there were a lot of fights in the stands as well.
Geez <t>That was the most viscous on the field fight I think I've ever seen. Those guys were actually trying to kill each other!<br/> Swinging helmets, kicking downed players in the head... It was brutal.</t>
Thomas is a class act isn't he? I think Coker is history and I believe that this time Miami is going to have a very difficult time getting back to the elite level they were at the last 20 years.
I like Larry Coker. He seems to be an honorable man caught up in the culture of Hurricane football. Miami has the most despicable ex players who fuel this culture. That announcer Thomas exemplifies what the Miami culture is all about.
:idea: I like Coker too. He's a real football coach who has done every reasonable thing to turn Miami into a real football program without the thugs. Unfortunately, that area is full of thugs...
Hey guys, I like Coker also but I still see him being let go at the end of the season. He will be made a scapegoat for all this.
Miami thugs <r>Unfortunately this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who has paid any attention to UM football. With few exceptions this brawl displays for all to see exactly the type of players that make up the majority of the "cane" roster year in and out. <br/> <br/> The "U"....right..You can't spell thUg without "U" now can you. <E>:?</E> <br/> <br/> <br/> Coker should leave now and try to save what is left of his reputation.</r>
Coker recuited the guys that were out there swinging helmets and stompin on guys. Granted a few "bad apples" can fly under the radar, but this is a bit much! I'm certain you gray beards out there remember Minny under Musselman and the mugging they gave the "Bucks". This crap at a collegant leval should not be tolerated at all! :evil: On another front is that coach at FIU the same guy that played at VT many moons ago?
In reality, the game was nothing more than two gangs from the 'hood" masquerading as student-athletes. The misconception that most people have is that U of M wants something different. They don't--they want exactly what you saw--thugs. Stephen
I see were discipline at FIU was much tougher than the punishment doled out by Miami so far. The defensive captain at Miami #19 was the individual seen stomping some poor individual that was on the ground. Guess he missed breaking his ankle. Why doesn't the U do what the REALLY want to do. Why not have a halftime celebration of their heros from the last game at the next home game. They can show a replay and give out awards to those that swung helmets, stomped and otherwise tried to inflict great bodily harm. Lamar Thomas could be the fawning MC. This should help Miami recruit the kind of players that the REALLY want. Thugs who like to injure.
Whobe, I remember Musselman and his gang of thugs quite well. I can still see Corky Laing(?) helping Witte up off the deck where he had been hammered on the play then proceeding to plant his knee in Witte's ba!!s! :evil: I can also remember one David Winfield throwing haymakers at anybody in the same zipcode! If I'm not mistaken, Strock was the back-up QB to Griese during Shula's Dolphins heyday.... Coker seems to be a decent sort but I always believed he was in over his head.....he's been at the helm for 6 years now. The culture and the product on the field are entirely his responsibility. He, his entire staff and the team leaders should be gone - immediately.
Coker is the guy who recruited Willie Williams and who claimed he never knew anything about Willies criminal record. To me that says all there is to say about Cokers ethics.
I wouldn't be so sure of that. You forget, Miami sends more kids to the NFL than anyone else. There is a lot of money pouring into Miami athletics from their pro athletes. Keep in mind this is a very small university with a tiny alumnus. We are not talking Ohio State or Penn State who have many alumnus. These guys have big bucks,big egos and a big influence on Miami athletics. You think Thomas is the only ex pro thug with the urge to defend "Our House". Good thing he wasn't on the field or in the stands. You are asking the football coach to keep these generous criminal benefactors away from the football team, the field and the players? When it comes to money, Coker is not making those calls. Coker is not responsible for this culture. The culture has been there long before he ever came aboard. Look at it this way, it's a cancer and there is no cure for it.
AJ, I couldn't disagree more....every one of the players on that team is there as a result of a decision that was made by Coker. Every one of the alums on that sideline or at practice is there as a result of a decision made by Coker. If perhaps you were to suggest that Donna Shalala or the Board or the AD has pressured Coker to allow access to those that would perpetuate the thug culture in a manner contrary to the best interest of the program and he has caved, then he has enabled it and that is a decision made by Coker as well.....sorry AJ, I don't buy it. This is his deal, it's on his watch and he's responsible.
AJ is right on the money! These guys come back to workout and teach these kids...Coker can't get rid of them. The culture will never change at miami. Coker has never been the right coach for these players. He's a great guy and a good coach, but not the right guy for the job. They need a hard-nosed, takes no B.S. type of coach. Until then, their program will be out of control. What I found funny was watching Lou Holtz on Espn take shots at Miami and claim that they were all thugs and that the program has always been full of them. Even though I agree 100% with his comments, I find it funny coming from a guy who's had numerous players with felonys..assault charges etc....whether it be at Notre Dame or wherever. Not to mention the brawl last season between South Carolina and Clemson was arguably much more brutal. He's a Fraud in my oponion. I also think the Big 3 in Florida are treated much more harshly when these types of actions occur. For example, when Notre Dame has their benches cleared and are using helmets as weapons...noone seems to care. But when a UF, FSU, or Miami player does this...they should get rid of the program and suspend all these thugish players. Double Standard...I would think so. At least coaches like Coker and Urban have some morals. When Bobby Bowden has a player that gets into trouble nothing seems to happen. For example, When Sims and Nicholsan got arrested last year before the season started..no suspensions where given. What a coincidence...Miami was their first game :shock: .
1. Lou prefaced his remarks on ESPN with his last game and said how embarassed he was about the fight. He aknowledged how bad that fight was and took responsiblity for it. 2. Lou had a clean program at ND, the only thing that went on during his watch was the Dunbar affair. Which at the time it was happening was just a player dating a townie, it wasn't till after he left that most of that stuff came out about the gifts she gave the player. He didn't have players committing felonies or other problems of that type at Notre Dame. 3. I can't think of any Notre Dame fight in recent memory that was any worse than the one at Michigan State and that was over in 30 seconds and nobody really even landed a punch it was some pushing and shoving. We did have a dilly of a fight in 1971 in a televised fight with USC in L.A. That fight is on Youtube and I've seen it, it was the typical football fight, no tomahawking of helmets and no stomping and kicking of players down by either USC or ND players. 4. ND players have never engaged in the stomping on logo's deal that has seemingly become the thing to do over the last 10 years. FSU, Georgia, Miami, Fla, have all engaged in it. I can't think of any team outside the Southeast that has done that.