Now Sid I am the one that is a bit confused. I am showing my SEC colors just because I happen to believe in a four team playoff Alabama would win? I don't think so, I just happen to think that at this point Alabama has kind of separated themselves from the rest of the pack, including the rest of the SEC, something like I think USC did a few years ago for several years. If you think Notre Dame would have gone through the Gators schedule unbeaten that is fine, I don't remember discussing that. However if you want my opinion there would have been three very tough games that you could also have easily lost, LSU, Georgia and S Carolina. Injuries have caught up with S. Carolina so that might not be as tough right now. Just because I happen to think there are very good teams in the SEC and that Bama stands out hardly makes me a SEC homer, at least in my opinion. But I will say again that in a four game playoff that would involve Bama I would put my money on them. And I would also say that regardless of our record that if we snuck into a four game playoff we would likely lose in the first round to any of the other three. But beware of us in the coming years.
Let me add Nebraska to that domination list, for several years in the 90's they were almost unbeatable. So my list is Nebraska in the middle 90's, USC in the early 2000's and Bama right now. I hardly think that shows my SEC colors.
Bill, let me be clear about what I said in my earlier post. I said we "could have" beaten every team on Florida's schedule, not "would have". Huge difference. The same could be said about Florida vs. our schedule. By the same token, we "could have" lost 2,3,4 games on Florida's schedule. My point to Dave was that without playing the games, we don't know what would happen. This is a year when we can play with anyone in the country, no exceptions. If ND should play Alabama in a bowl game, you and I can make a friendly wager. I'm sure you'll be willing to give me points. :wink: By the way, I have no problem at all with you being an SEC homer. That's the way it should be. You handle it with much more class than another certain Florida fan who shall remain nameless. :wink:
Sid it looks like we are one loss short of a likely Bama - Notre Dame game. As far as a wager if we are determining who is best why would points need to be given??? Thanks for the compliment, I think.
Well there we have it. When the BCS standings come out tomorrow it will be Notre Dame at number one and Alabama and Georgia at 2 and 3. All Notre Dame has to do is beat S. Cal and baring a major upset of either Georgia or Alabama the Irish will square off against an SEC team, most likely Bama. In one night it all changes and Nick Saban is back in the hunt for two straight and 3 out of 4.
It's not over. We control our own destiny. There's no question that AL and GA are the two best one-loss teams. If we don't beat SoCal, it's entirely possible that there will be an all-SEC championship game, depending on who finishes behind the SEC champ. I'm mum for the next week, except for the ND topics.
we didn't even get all of the votes in the Coaches poll.... This BCS joke cant go away fast enough. Bama fans are already ordering title rings here in this state.. Why wouldn't they?
Bama fans better walk lightly. History says Georgia probably won't put it all together at the right time, but if they do, they are very capable of putting Bama out of the fight.
I don't share your optimism Scott. I think Alabama will physically beat up and destroy a bad Auburn team fresh off their big win against Alabama A&M. I think Georgia just can't hang physically with Alabama. It's football, anything is possible... but I just don't see it.
Like Terry initially you missed my point about the "Pitt card"... Pitt showed that coming off a highly emotional game can take it's toll on a bunch of 18-20 year olds the following Saturday. ND could barely... and you know it was barely..... overcome the letdown the following week after playing at Oklahoma. So... why in hell would I agree that ND would breeze through UF's schedule at 12-0??? Good enough to? Maybe... we'll see in January when they play the SEC Champ. But the Irish proved to me that either they aren't much better than Pitt or more likely.... they would have a hard time week in week out dealing with Florida's #1 ranked schedule and especially with the aforementioned 4 game stretch at the end of which UF lost to Georgia. Please understand I am not saying Florida is a dominant team....or even better than Notre Dame... just that ND would have a very difficult time going 12-0 with the Gator's schedule.
For a guy who follows a team that had to block a punt with 2 sec. to beat La-Lafayette you sure have a big opinion of your team.
So, by that reasoning, did Florida prove to you that they "aren't much better than U La La? Can't use that argument against others and then discount it against yourself.
"For a guy who follows a team that had to block a punt with 2 sec. to beat La-Lafayette you sure have a big opinion of your team." You guys can't read. "or more likely.... they would have a hard time week in week out dealing with Florida's #1 ranked schedule and especially with the aforementioned 4 game stretch at the end of which UF lost to Georgia." "Please understand I am not saying Florida is a dominant team....or even better than Notre Dame... just that ND would have a very difficult time going 12-0 with the Gator's schedule." Against Pitt...what was it then?? Was ND not much better than a team that lost to Youngstown State??? Or as I am proposing... was the poor Irish performance directly caused by a letdown after the big win vs. Oklahoma the week before? Which is it? One or the other? By the way we were flatter than a pancake against ULL ( similar to ND vs. Pitt ) and we haven't come out of that Georgia funk yet. Hopefully the Gators can get their batteries charged for a supreme effort vs. FSU this Saturday. Hey if ND does manage to beat USC this ND-SEC thingy is gonna be some pure fun.... don't ya think? :wink: 8)
Corey...if you ( and others ) must insistently insist which apparently all of you do then fine.....Florida is THE most impressive team by far I have seen this year. My God what a team... so dominant they would crush Notre Dame for certain and Alabama too if they could just get their damn hands on 'em. You are saying those two wins are our best? Best East wins to be sure but no Texas A&M in College Station? No credit given for ending LSU's 18 game regular season win streak? Damn behold the Florida Gators and you my friend have seen something special. NOW.... are you statisfied? :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: I repeat.... you guys just can't read. "Against Pitt...what was it then?? Was ND not much better than a team that lost to Youngstown State??? Or as I am proposing... was the poor Irish performance directly caused by a letdown after the big win vs. Oklahoma the week before? Which is it? One or the other? The Irish have certainly.. obviously not dominated every opponent... haven't dodged a letdown game like Pitt..... have proved to be very human. And yet... stubbornly so..... to a man you ND guys want to say that the Irish would have no trouble with Florida's schedule. Maybe you're not that densely stubborn but trying to pi... me off... oh... ok... I get it. Well done! :wink:
Sid, you cannot use "average" and LSU in the same sentence. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/LSU/Les_Miles_Strikes.gif
Here is my opinion of how to fix the polls and I throw no bias into this objective opinion: 1) 1st poll should come out at the conclusion of week 5. 2) Rankings should be based upon the following: .....a) 1st level - W/L record .....b) 2nd level - W/L record of your direct opposition .....c) 3rd level - W/L record of your direct opponents' opposition 3) Penalties for scheduling anything other than FBS opponents. 4) There should be no further considerations made Someone could win in week 6 and fall in the rankings if all of their downstream opposition loses. This would encourage scheduling the best competition week in and week out. This would eliminate any subjective bias in rankings and the talk about one conference getting an advantage over another. What it would hurt is the lower tier schools that could not get quality opponents anymore and relegate them to the cellar forever.
With this system, fans would no longer be the driving force of policing other schools' schedules... Fans seeing their own team falling in the rankings because they chose to schedule lower level opponents will demand their own schedules be upgraded.