Coaches Behavior

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Brian Kelly was roasted last year for his sideline outburst during the USF loss, his purple face was all over the place after that. He's definitely learned that you are on camera all the time now and his behavior has improved.

    Some have noticed Will Muschamps explosions on the sideline going back to his days at Texas, he's gotten some criticism and he even admitted that he had to be better.

    Now we have Bo Pellini who is well known for his sideline explosions now saying ...Get Used to it, It happens.
    Not to mention Washington State coach Mike Leach being accused of player abuse again by WR Marquise Wilson who quit because he was tired of the abuse. Leach denies it.


    Are players a bunch of babies these days?
     
  2. Don Ballard

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    Time changes Terry, nothing is like it use to be! Everything seems to be defined by being politically correct.
     
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    Terry, except for the WSU fiasco, it's not the players. It's the media and certain soft-hearted people who sympathize with the players, like my wife in the case of Kelly. The players don't even flinch. They are tougher and know their coaches better than people give them credit for.

    Your post overlooked Tommy Tuberville's meltdown this past weekend, wherein he angrily ripped the headphones off his asst. coach's head. I expected to hear more about it.
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I saw that Tubberville, after watching the tape that went viral on YouTube, agreed that he was out of line and vowed not to do it again.
     
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    You can't yell at losers anymore. They are entitled to a Certificate of Participation.
     
  6. George Krebs

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    Not quite that simple. While Kelly was melting down on some kid on the sideline, his QB was frantically looking for a play. A year ago we were spending TOs because we could not get a play off in 35 secs.

    Now that he has gained control of himself, everything is running smoothly.

    Can't speak for the other coaches.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I think in Kelly's case, he's always been volatile on the sidelines but that was all before he was on Nat'l TV every week in high profile games. Bo Pellini has always been firey on the sidelines as well but he wasn't the head coach, now he's the focus and he's even been called on the carpet by Dr. Tom over it. I think it's interesting that now that Dr. Tom is on his way out Pellini is telling everybody to get used to it.

    As far as not getting plays in on time, well it's like a catcher who has Hoyt Whilhelm on the mound and he keeps calling for a fast ball. The OCoord kept calling for Tommy to roll out, Kelly would shake him off, then he'd call for Tommy to run the read/option and Kelly would have to shake him off...you get the drift! :)
     
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    I was unaware we had an offensive coordinator. :?:
     
  9. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

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    So in other words, Bo is basically saying....HOW 'BOUT A NICE CUP OF SHUT THE F--K UP!!

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    As to Will Muschamp, I don't have a problem with him. The players seem to love him and getting them to play to their capability is what it is all about.

    The times I have watched him on the sidelines this year he doesn't seem all that bad.
     
  11. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Bill he didn't get the nick name Coach Boom for nuttin! :) Just saying. But I did read that after last year he re-evaluated himself and decided he needed to be more in control, not necessarily less passionate but more in control. That is what Brian Kelly has done as well.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2012/10/25/college-football-florida-gators-georgia-bulldogs-sec-east-will-muschamp/1655975/
     
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    Terry, I am aware of the Boom nickname and how he got it, what I am saying though is that whatever his nickname and how he can get excited, however he seems to be well liked and respected by his players and he has much better control than what Meyer had.

    That makes him a winner in my book.
     
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    Since I so rarely read mainstream media for anything (even sports) I've read quite a lot about Tubbs outburst.

    As for Bo, I kinda like his answer.

    I don't mind a screamer of a coach. I don't. Somehow my objections to Kelly's outbursts last year seemed to get my opinion caught in this broad brush stroke of PC. My objection to Kelly last year was that it was uneven. It was unfair and at times flat out inappropriate. Kelly has grown a lot this year. In fact, so much so that he seems to be holding himself in check.. which I suppose is good and bad.

    We've had a few calls go against us this year that I honestly thought and was hoping he'd lose his mind over. He did let into an assistant a few games ago and I endorsed it 100%... dude wasn't doing his job.

    What Tubbs did was ******** though... unless you're prepared to drop the gloves in the locker room afterwards (which you know Tubbs' wussy ass isn't), that kind of out burst is and should be considered intolerable and unprofessional.
     
  14. WSU1996kesley

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    Yes, many quite talented players are babies. In the case of Marquess Wilson, many Wazzu fans are agreeing with Coach Leach that this is addition by subtraction. By many reports, Wilson hasn't put in the effort that a team leader would be expected to put in, and in fact, has been fighting against the coaching staff the whole way. He was demoted a couple weeks ago, and continued to not shape up. When they got home from their drubbing against an average Utah team, Coach Leach cancelled practice and instead held a 2-hour "conditioning session". In my opinion, if those kids don't want to play their guts out, they should run lines, do up/downs and gassers until they puke their guts out. Instead of taking the lesson, Wilson, the great leader he is, quit 20 minutes into the session. NOBODY ELSE LEFT.

    There is both an internal and independent, external investigation ongoing. If anything comes of this, then the coaches should be held accountable. From what I have read, nothing untoward occurred except a spurned "gimme" player wasn't catered to. I don't need that kind of person on my team. We aren't good enough, and never will have enough talent to win as individuals at Wazzu. We will need to play as a better team whenever we expect to win. Wilson didn't want to work on the team part. Goodbye.
     
  15. JO'Co

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    :shock: :D :!:

    That's a great explanation Kes. You know Wazzu better than anyone here and I agree with you that they will never be able to out-recruit schools like USC, UCLA, Arizona State and Stanford. Their clear path to victory is unselfish team play. It's the only way.

    This has been a rough transition for everyone up there, but if the administration will stand with coach Leach, I expect to see a tougher, team-oriented Wazzu 2-3 years down the road that will be an annual bowl participant...

    As Lenin said, "You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs."