Is it ok if I make the argument that a 5 loss Michigan team that did not have the forward pass in its arsenal should have made the playoffs?
How would you consider SOS? I can see it between teams of equal records, but if one team is 1 loss team with a weak schedule and the other team is 9-3 with a stronger schedule? What trumps?
That our ranked win was a road win against a team that just beat the crap out of a team with so called prestigious victories over ranked teams? Of course you would have to ignore all our bad losses which I think justifies our exclusion.
I think it depends and that is why you have a committee. Again if SOS is just a tiebreaker you don’t need a committee. Just take the won/loss records and break ties with SOS. But again if that’s what we’re going to do then let’s say that now and go with that.
I have no doubt that a 2 loss Alabama team would have jumped over SMU or Indiana. But you had Lane Kiffen and the SEC mob on twitter blasting Indiana last night and citing their schedule and loss to OSU as proof that a 3 loss SEC team was more deserving. How does that argument now stand when OSU waxes a 2 loss SEC team who put up a less credible performance against Ohio State than Indiana did.
Michigan had a very tough SOS but their record was 1-4 against the ranked teams. You have to win those games or at least most of them. Those were good losses, just too many of them. Again this is why we have a committee. What you seem to be proposing though is, ignore SOS and just use won/loss record. Don’t need a committee for that but it will probably cut down on OOC quality games
Needless to say I am happy with the outcome. I am still at our loss to Michigan, but it doesn't hurt quite as much now.
See that’s the problem, I’m talking about getting into the final 12. I have been making this argument since the selection. There are always going to be surprises and lopsided wins in any tournament but if the object is to get the best 12 teams into the tournament, did we accomplish that? If you want the 12 teams with fewest losses then let’s just say that and go with it.
No I do think SOS is important. But, after Alabama lost to Oklahoma you indicated that Alabama did not deserve to be a playoff team. ******* Well, it’s out of our hands now. I personally don’t think Alabama deserves to be in the playoffs ***** I do not fault you if you reconsidered that position but when you are comparing a 1 loss power conference team to a 3 loss team, I can’t criticize the committee weighing bad losses AND SOS especially when the wins and losses are confined to conference games. What stuck in my craw was the SEC twitterverse arguing yesterday that a SEC 3 loss team is clearly superior to a 1 loss Big 10 team. I realize you are not making that argument so my venting is not aimed at you but just venting at things I read elsewhere.
How do you judge if you accomplished your goal yet ignore what actually took place on the field during the playoffs? If you are saying that a 3 loss SEC team is superior to a 1 loss Big 10 team, you cannot blithely ignore the fact that a 2 loss SEC team washed out in the playoffs to a 2 loss B 10 team. As I said before, SOS is important but so are bad losses which cannot be ignored based upon an unfounded assumption that one conference is so vastly superior to others that multiple inter conference losses can be disregarded.
Don, congratulations! The important thing is the Buckeyes put that loss behind them and looked like a legit NC contender tonight while M is playing in an inconsequential bowl game.
The committee has stated clearly that SOS is ONE factor among others. In Indiana's case, they not only beat 11 teams, but, with the exception of Michigan - score 20-15 - they devoured them. Also, as stated elsewhere, they played a very respectable game vs. Ohio State. One example: they convincingly beat 6-6 Nebraska 56-7. It remains to be seen if IU's loss to ND is because ND is that good or IU had an abnormally bad game. Judging from yesterday's results, IU's presence in the CFP has been vindicated, not that it needed vindication.
After competition of this week's games, there has been more separation of the group, but not as much as I would have thought. Boondock Muskies, Sore Nuts, Big Orange Hope and myself are all tied with 11-1 records. LoneStarIrish missed a pick and stands 11-0 , or he would have been alone at the top.