Texas and Oklahoma want to join the SEC? No offense to anyone here but I really would rather the SEC did not get any larger.
Here's an article about the Texas Oklahoma move to the SEC. I am not sure how I feel about it, on one hand I think the SEC is strong enough already, on the other hand both those programs are top notch. Big 12 powers Texas, Oklahoma inquire about joining SEC in potentially massive shakeup, per report
Here's another article, this one about Saban's remark about Bryce Young and million dollars. Nick Saban's million-dollar remark about Bryce Young again proves the unmatched savvy of Alabama's coach
The Saban article makes my point. The new recruiting emphasis will no longer be state pride, school pride, legacy, educational opportunity, Alumni networks, 40 year plans or any other of that Rah-Rah stuff. It's going to focus on earning potential. Bama, Ohio State and Clemson will only get stronger. Then there are a select few teams that are outside looking in but with a few changes in philosophy might be able to join that inner circle economic titans. Notre Dame would have to be sitting at the top of that list. All of a sudden their Independent status becomes a huge advantage because they can market kids from coast to coast. But will they exploit it ? They will if they want to join that select club.
I couldn't find bylaws that gave any schools the right to veto, only that 11 of 14 are needed to approve. Link? It would seem to be waste of breath if there is a right to veto.
It really wouldn't make any sense to give a single school the right to veto things like that, no matter how powerful/influential. Of course, lobbying against the move that's to be expected.
I can definitely understand situations from both a conference and school perspective where it would be beneficial. From a conference perspective, why piss off one or more schools that have been upstanding members for years, in favor of an outsider? From a school's perspective, do we have to do anything more than point at Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado, A&M? There's a reason those schools left, and I'm guessing those schools would all try to prevent any similar situation arising again in their new home. Whether any thinks their viewpoint is right or wrong, their perception is their reality and it was strong enough to do almost anything to get away from certain conference member(s). That being said, that doesn't mean the bylaw or agreement that went into effect included this right. I can also understand why, in the end, this power would not be included so maybe it was discussed, but didn't ultimately make sense?
I see where the ACC Commissioner publicly stated yesterday in his speech at the ACC meetings that one of his top goals is to convince Notre Dame to become a full-time member in Football. I doubt that it happens any time soon though. As long as the Irish have access to the playoff and the current proposal of 12 teams pretty much assures the Irish that if they have a good team that they will be in the mix. We have by contract 5 ACC games a year, and as long as we are able to fill in the other 7 slots with good opponents then our motivation to give up the football independence is poor. In the past some have suggested that the Power 5 needs to break away and form their own association of 64 teams, everybody in a league might of course change that. I would imagine that financially we'd be best off joining a league but right now that doesn't seem to be a concern for ND.
My thoughts that matter not are that ND joining a conference today makes less sense than it did a month ago before NIL and 12 team CFP. Up until NIL and pay came up, I felt the pressure to join a conference was increasing. At this point, I don't see any reason that a ND wouldn't be able to recruit as richly as any other big name.
If in fact Texas and OU do move to the SEC, and they can't do that till after their contracts with the B12 run out in 2025 ( unless of course they buy their way out), what would a 16 team SEC look like? How would it change scheduling, would they add Texas and OU to the SEC West and move Auburn and somebody else to the East?
If the move happens, what do the remaining B12 schools do for a conference? They could of course just work with 7 schools maybe talk BYU into joining for an 8 team league the old Big 8 did it for 50+ years. But financially it wouldn't be a good move. Texas Tech >>>>> Mountain West Baylor >>>>>AAC TCU>>>>>>>AAC Kansas >>>>>Big 10 Iowa State >>>> Big 10 Oklahoma State>>>Mountain West Kansas State >>>>Mountain West
Fellas, I didn't mean a literal veto. I can name at least 3 teams that will actively vote AGAINST those two being added. A&M, Arkansas, and Mizzou. I suspect there would be a few more that could be swayed to join, but those three would be in lock step about a big fat NO. When we start adding in the further destruction of old SEC rivalries, it would probably get some others riled up. Then there's the money. What do those two bring in that would balance the cut in pay for the current members? TV you say?
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Mike Leach: He'd like to see the CFP expand to 64 teams. Dabao Sweeny: He doesn't think there are 12 teams good enough to play for the Nat'l Title.