Numbers not good for Trump and the GOP 2024

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  1. gipper

    gipper Well-Known Member

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    The very first bill that the Democrats brought to the House was one changing election rules. Why if they won honestly the last election? Republicans have been trying to get an audit of election machines in Maricopa county but the Democrats keep filing suit after suit trying to stop it. Why if they won the election fairly? Thousands of illegals are entering the country from the south and being sent all over the country many to "red" states. Meanwhile Democrats want amnesty which would undoubtedly increase their numbers. Why violate of immigration laws so blatantly if they won the last election honestly? Democrats ran a bogus post term impeachment hoping to stop Trump from ever running again. Why if they won the last election honestly? They keep resisting every attempt at voter ID laws and other attempts to insure that only valid votes are cast. Why if they won the last election honestly?
    Meanwhile in schools Critical Race programs separate children according to their race. White students are labeled as "oppressors" while students of color are told that they are "victims." This is straight out of 1930's Germany where Jews were labeled oppressors and non Jews were told that they were victims. Eventually the "oppressors" were exterminated by the millions as the general population stood by. The Jews had no ways to protect themselves and no police protection. So consider what's planned by the folks who hide behind fences, protected by troops who want to defund the police and take away private gun ownership. They will still need the help of collaborators, the pathetic sheep who will place their own necks in the noose because American Pravda beckons them to the slaughter. The alert ones will not go quietly.
     
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  2. Stu Ryckman

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    Whatever makes you happy, Dave.
     
  3. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Audit.... uh yeah.... lol
    "For weeks, election officials in Arizona from both parties have sounded the alarm over a partisan audit of the 2020 election. There, an unaccredited firm is reviewing ballots in Maricopa County. Election experts warned that the effort in Arizona is just the beginning, with reviews to come in other states."

    The GOP orchestrated and operated election audit of Maricopa County Az. is about as much a legitimate audit as Jan. 6th at the Capitol was a typical tourist stop.
    "What’s Happening In Arizona Is Not Really An Audit Or A Recount. It’s A Partisan Inquisition.
     
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  4. Motorcity Gator

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    Joe Biden today remarked on the same thing I have said here today..... that those who we memorialize today gave their lives for our democracy. And yes I do hate the SOB responsible for continuing to spit on their graves:
    "*Former President Donald Trump continues to refuse to concede defeat in the 2020 election. "Massive numbers of dead people 'voted' in the 2020 presidential election, far greater than anyone has known or seen before," Trump said in a statement late last week. (Side note: There's very little evidence of dead people casting ballots in elections.) Trump's lies are working; a majority of Republicans (53%) said he was the "true" president in a Reuters/Ipsos poll released last week."
     
  5. Stu Ryckman

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    I guess my dilemma is this; assuming that you are right about all the disarray in the GOP (and you may well be right)...what is making you so happy? Do you hate Republicans so much that it shivers your timbers that they have some issues with each other? Or are you delighted at all the crap the Dems are assaulting us with right now? I don't recall you addressing any of that. All you do is knock conservatives and put them in some kind of basket of deplorables. Why don't you address what are clearly our concerns instead of throwing shade at us?
     
  6. Motorcity Gator

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    Stu that's what my topic is basically about. I truly hate that one of our two major political parties in America has gone down the Trump rabbit hole and out of fear of retribution the party leaders are unable to break free from his shadow. I truly believe he has some autocratic plan to change the way we govern ourselves in this nation.... and that's the reason he continues to pursue and popularize this Big Lie about the election..... no matter all of the numerous audits already conducted by many states and all of the over 63 courts of law who have thrown him out for lack of evidence and also the SCOTUS that he manipulated into a GOP majority failing him as well. His plan now seems clear.... the GOP electorate is obviously poisoned by his incessant stolen election drum beating and there are enough conspiracy tinged members of the GOP base to give him the GOP nomination in 2024 over more worthy and democracy promoting candidates. Voter suppression may narrow the gap..... but it's a huge gap and he has no intention of trying to legitimately win a general election because he has no way to win over anyone he has kicked over the political fence with his divisive style.
     
  7. Terry O'Keefe

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    Dave has been on a rage/roll against Republicans since he lost his job in Detroit which he blamed on Republicans. He spent 8 years railing/raging against George Bush. This whole concern about the Republican party is just another way for him to keep up his attacks while never addressing things that the Democrats do that are problematic. He has an irrational fear of Trump.
     
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    What about the F'd up admin we have now? Care to comment Mr. Psaki?
     
  9. Motorcity Gator

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    Terry doesn't it strike you as significant that not one prominent elder retired member of the GOP endorses Trump or his stolen election agenda and especially the nuttiness of Q Anon? Whether it's George W, Mitt Romney. various retired memebers of the military brass or Congress..... none of them like what is transpiring in the GOP right now.
     
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  10. Stu Ryckman

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    So What Who Cares??? I'm a lot more worried about where the country is ACTUALLY going rather than some dumb nuthouse conspiracy theories. Geez. Give it a rest. Are you REALLY that scared of Trump? Are you REALLY not concerned about where we are headed fiscally? Or are you just a troll?
     
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    Um.... this.
     
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  12. Motorcity Gator

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    Stu going all the way back to Barry Goldwater I have always been concerned about the possibility of crazy people running the country. He has been called unfit by many many Republicans.
     
  13. Terry O'Keefe

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    By your definition any Republican is crazy and unfit, and please don't start saying you really thought Bush was OK, during his term you were just as out of control with your rage against him as you are now against Trump.

    Oh yeah and suprisingly the country has survived all of those crazies, going back to the John Birchers. So again I ask you to start talking and defending Biden, AOC, Kamala, the Squad, AntiFa, defunding the police, etc.
     
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    And let's not forget the rants about governors Scott and DeSantis. As the boob in the White House says he's a "one horse pony."
     
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  15. Motorcity Gator

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    "by your definition any Republican is crazy and unfit,"

    And where do you come up with that conclusion Terry? As I have said I twice have voted GOP in presidential elections and I appreciated that I felt I had a choice that I could make.

    I have been very specific about the insanity of Q Anon and yes.... in light of all of the evidence to the contrary Trump's incessant stolen election ******** is at best crazy.... at worst a devious attempt to subvert our democratic process for his own gain. But that's only 23% and 53% of the party respectively who believe in that nonsense.

    The other 47% of the party is only guilty of allowing themselves to be run out of town by Trump and his crazies instead of standing up for the rules of U.S. law and our constitution. To have a congressman call Jan. 6th a "tourist event" and get away with it with party leadership is a spineless display by GOP leaders.

    Regarding George W Bush..... when he exited office he did so with dignity and class.... and has continued to be presidential as most ex-presidents have been. All of that seems completely out of reach for Donald Trump.
     
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  16. Terry O'Keefe

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    Yet you spent all of his 8 years blaming him for your personal employment problems. I also don't believe you've ever voted for a GOP candidate.
     
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    "NEW YORK (Reuters) - Nearly half of all Americans still believe President Donald Trump worked with Russia to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, according to a new Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted after Special Counsel Robert Mueller cleared Trump of that allegation."
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ump-colluded-with-russia-reuters-ipsos-poll-i
    This was an obvious attempt to "subvert our democratic process" by Democrats. They just hate it when the same stick is shoved up their asses.
     
  18. Motorcity Gator

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    Voted for Nixon and George Sr.

    My "personal employment problems" only existed in the last few months of 2008 at which time a Great Recession caused many people... especially in Detroit "employment problems".
    Until then I made a significant amount of money... great money..... a large portion of it during the W years.

    Your memory is pretty sketchy.

    I see Gipper in spite of all of the lack of legal evidence to the contrary and the fact 63 courts of law threw Trump out and your Notre Dame education you stand in belief that Trump won the election. That somehow he overturned major metro areas he lost big in 2016 like Detroit, Atlanta, Philly and Milwaukee.etc etc.
    I'm sorry for you Gipper.
     
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  19. Terry O'Keefe

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    You've (and your fellow democrats) started even before Trump was elected pushing to impeach him, you complained and railed that he stole the election. It was never proven of course, yet for 4 years you railed that he was illegitimate, just like you now complain that some groups feel Biden stole the election. Yet somehow you don't see that as the same as 4 years of attempts to overturn his legitimate election. You were even assisted by the mainstream media who daily gave headlines to anything that said Trump stole the election. Democrat electors were also conspiring to change their votes to their personal vote in the College rather than the votes they were legally obligated to cast. But you can't see that.
     
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    I don't recall Hilary Clinton doing anything other than gracefully conceding an election that was much much closer than was this one. It was proven by Meuller's investigation that the Russians did interfere in the 2016 election but not proven if Trump colluded with them.
    Hard to believe that any reasonable Republican would not be embarrassed by Trump's continually promoting his baseless stolen election lie. The rest of us are not embarrassed......we just feel threatened.. as in Nazi Germany threatened