With some Big 10 teams saying they want to play, esp Neb. I wonder how all the media rights would work out? I know that Notre Dame has run into issues with media rights in attempting to schedule teams in our annual "Shamrock Series". When we played Wash State in San Antonio a lot of people wondered why there, part of it was that we had to play them outside the Pac 12 footprint, some fans wondered why we didn't play a Texas based team in San Antonio, well it's in the B12 footprint and B12 teams can't play a game in the footprint that isn't covered by the B12 media contract, but Notre Dame was playing it as a home game so that's why Wash State was chosen. Same thing for playing Miami in Chicago a few years ago, why not play a big 10 team? Media rights. So how would all of that work for Big 10 teams who might decide to join the B12 for 1 year and attempt to play this fall.
When Trump blocked the Chinese from coming into the country, the Democrats said that it was because he was a racist and that his move had nothing to do with containing the virus...
Your right, we didnt. My President was fooled by Furor Fauci and company. Masks off and Helmets on ladies.
I don't know why you have to be so difficult. It's a dumb question but I am not erasing it for now but you keep bringing your politics to this forum I can keep deleting them and this one could go. You need to take a serious look at yourself. Quite a few posters here have you on ignore and the only reason I don't is to keep your political comments out of this forum and to do it I have to read your stuff no matter how ridiculous. Just some advice, quit being so confrontational and see if you might make a friend or so. Just some friendly advice.
By the way for everyone. If you agree of do not agree with what I posted to MCG above feel free to comment. I don't want to do anything that most of you disagree with.
Bill, thanks for your efforts to try and keep the sports board focused on that topic. Obviously, Covid greatly impacts that world and certainly posts that discuss how professional leagues and universities are responding to the crisis and whether it is too risky to play sports are pertinent sports board topics. However, greatly appreciate your efforts to confine political epistles re why Covid remains a serious problem to its appropriate place in the Back Room.
Mack Brown wants to play, but see's some hurdles. North Carolina coach Mack Brown said Tuesday that the ACC wants to play this season, but he added that he did not think it was feasible to play if several other Power 5 leagues decided to suspend sports for the fall. "I've also told the players if we found out or heard you were someplace you shouldn't be, we have to quarantine you or ask you to leave the team because you can't be around us if you're not going to be disciplined enough to understand this is about your academics and football for the next three months, and that's it. Social life is not part of who any of us are right now." Brown reiterated that the Tar Heels would play only if the medical experts said it was safe to do so. As far as health and safety questions related to possible long-term effects on the heart, which has come up in discussions across leagues, Brown said players with positive coronavirus tests must go through a complete EKG and heart checkup after their quarantine is up before they are cleared to practice. UNC coach Brown wants to play but sees hurdles
Thanks Bobda just want to make sure that what I am trying to do is what most members want Skybox to be. Appreciate the input.
I do appreciate the welcomed civility of your post Bill as usually that has not been the case. I don't see how we can look at the mess that Covid-19 has created in our lives without wondering what we can do and maybe should have done to prevent college football's 2020 demise. It's a monumental addition to the disaster that has been an out of control national emergency. It's one thing to stay inside and stay out of doing anything enjoyable but it's another when in doing so there is no college football to watch for first time in any of our lifetimes. That's pretty messed up..... and it's makes you wonder why.
It’s official. B10 cancels fall football. My guess is PAC 12 follows but my gut feeling is that several conferences will attempt to play football this fall.
As I said it's going to be more complicated than just saying your team is ready to play, and will play anybody anywhere. There are contracts and such between schools and a conference. Now the Big 10 might just say go ahead and schedule if you want, we're fine with it. Or they might have some language in the contract that says no you can't do this or that sure you can schedule non-conference opponents but you are limited to 3 in any year including 2020.
You guys had a great team coming back, a lot of players who you'll probably not see play again as Buckeyes even if there is a Spring Football season.
Here is where the tragedy of so many competing narratives really make things difficult. Fact 1. There are many kids that would gladly take the risk in order to play football (or go to school) because the risk to their age group is relatively low by almost all accounts. Fact 2. There are many kids that do not view playing football (or go to school) as worth the risk of contracting the virus because although the risk relatively low, there is in fact SOME risk. Fact 3. The risk to others with whom they may come in contact is likely higher than the risk to themselves. Fact 4. If a reasonable number of kids are allowed to play football (or go to school), a certain number will have a bad result, possibly including death. Question 1. If they aren't playing football (or going to school) are they going to be at more or less risk of contracting SARS-COV-2? Fact 5. Rules (laws?) do not allow schools to require waivers (which would likely not hold up in court) for voluntary participation (or attendance). Fact 6. You cannot prevent transmission of the virus unless you completely isolate everyone. Fact 7. You cannot completely isolate everyone, even if ordered to do so. Federal government tried. State government tried. City government tried. Employers tried. Schools can try. Coaches can try. Leagues can try. It has been proven since March that people will do whatever people want. Viewpoint 1. The best you can hope for is that the individuals most at risk will take certain precautions to protect themselves. Question 2. At what point in time do we "allow" (or recognize Fact 7) people to make their own determination while respecting each individual's right to protect themselves? And this includes those football players and school attendees. Viewpoint 2. None of these facts matter because the political lines have been drawn and only the "facts" that support their viewpoint will be recognized. Viewpoint 3. Given the litigious nature of our society, it would be unwise for a school to open itself up to lawsuit based on a roll of the dice if one of their kids ends up being the example of Fact 4. Question 3. But why can't we be adults and make everyone aware of the conditions of our current situation and let everyone make an adult decision best for them?
So a great post Kes, and I agree with you on a lot of it. I do see the risks for the schools as being a difficult one to accept. It's a given that some college kids whether they play sports or not are going to get Covid-19, most will either have no symptoms or mild symptoms, a few though will get into trouble and end up in dire straits and maybe have long term consequences and even death. The problem that schools face is that in the general student population attending class and all the other activities that go with being a student are accepted by everyone, so the various levels of consequences will not likely end up with lawsuits, bad media, etc. But football is different, a kid who has a bad outcome will be viewed differently (even unfairly so) and there will be bad media, lawsuits, accusations that they only cared about the money and not the kids, etc. So I sympathize with the Colleges who cancel. I fear for those who don't.
Pete Thammel tweeted out this.. An ACC source told me today: “We’re further away from pulling out now than we were a few days ago. I think we’re more steady in the boat in sticking with our plan. Given the conditions of COVID, we know that can change quickly.” Added: “The whole purpose of delaying the season was to navigate the return of students. We deserve the opportunity to get to that hurdle and re-assess once that happens.”